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The problem with Murray
March 05, 2010, 05:11:46 PM
I just wanted to pose a question. Murray lied to medical staff and paramedics about giving propofol. He also lied about the amount given. He incriminated himself by telling police he gave propofol, yet withheld this from medical staff. He didn't follow correct cpr protocol. He had no resuscitative equipment or rescue drugs (aside from flumazenil) with him, despite knowing there is no antidote - except the passage of time - for propofol. He didn't have the correct monitoring equipment with him. He administered a drug which is not accepted procedure for treatment of insomnia. He administered a drug in a home setting when it should be restricted to hospital. He kept on administering a drug which is known to be addictive and cause dependence. The doc did not appropriately refer MJ to a sleep specialist. CM did not tell police about phone calls he made. CM cannot give a straight story yet on the timeline of events.

Does this sound like an actor in a grand play, or as Katherine says, is he 'just trying to save his behind'. It's just my opinion, but considering the above, CM/the courts cannot logically be part of any hoax. Unless someone can logically elaborate further.
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Re: The problem with Murray
March 05, 2010, 05:53:59 PM
It could still be if he attempted to murder Michael but did not succeed.
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Re: The problem with Murray
March 05, 2010, 06:14:48 PM
Quote from: "QuirkyDiana"
I just wanted to pose a question. Murray lied to medical staff and paramedics about giving propofol. He also lied about the amount given. He incriminated himself by telling police he gave propofol, yet withheld this from medical staff. He didn't follow correct cpr protocol. He had no resuscitative equipment or rescue drugs (aside from flumanezil) with him, despite knowing there is no antidote - except the passage of time - for propofol. He didn't have the correct monitoring equipment with him. He administered a drug which is not accepted procedure for treatment of insomnia. He administered a drug in a home setting when it should be restricted to hospital. He kept on administering a drug which is known to be addictive and cause dependence. CM did not tell police about phone calls he made. CM cannot give a straight story yet on the timeline of events.

Does this sound like an actor in a grand play, or as Katherine says, is he 'just trying to save his ass'. It's just my opinion, but considering the above, CM/the courts cannot logically be part of any hoax. Unless someone can logically elaborate further.

Katherine did not say "ass".  She said "behind".  I have to pick because accuracy is important.  That's how rumors explode into minnow to shark stories.  That's just what Dr. Murray is trying to do.  It's all unfortunate.  This man got himself into a world of poop.  He will not be able to save his behind because he will not be able to reconcile the facts with the stories.  He was on the run the moment he discovered Michael was in arrest.
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Re: The problem with Murray
March 05, 2010, 06:38:56 PM
I like accuracy, so i'll correct that.  ;)
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Re: The problem with Murray
March 06, 2010, 09:33:04 AM
what if murray's role in all this is to do just that: create confusion by constantly debunking his own statements? if he and his lawyers are good enough, he'll get off the case by creating so much 'reasonable doubt' (again: hung jury!), that he cannot be convicted. that would be one more proof to show that the legal system builds cases out of no or false evidence. like when michael was 'legally lynched'. this is turning the tables, and michael swings it, i believe.  :mrgreen:
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Re: The problem with Murray
March 08, 2010, 06:17:27 AM
[youtube:297lh8e1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTqmoB4btOU&feature=related[/youtube:297lh8e1]
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Re: The problem with Murray
March 08, 2010, 08:20:31 AM
Apparently, Michael was in cardiac arrest long before he called 911. The question that I hope will investigated by the court, is why he waited so long to call emergency.  They said it was really hot in the bedroom. He might have raised the temperature to stave off rigor mortis. Just an idea.
I've said this elsewhere. It's about time we compile this information, write a petition or a letter and demand that these things be answered.  We can't just let this lie.
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Re: The problem with Murray
March 08, 2010, 08:42:33 AM
I'm getting more and more convinced that Murray is the fall guy. Either he was set up or he was 'bought'. This is the first time in my life that I'm lokking forward to a trial.  :mrgreen: But it wouldn't surprise me if they keep pushing the trial back, all the way to infinity...
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Re: The problem with Murray
March 09, 2010, 10:19:22 AM
Does anybody know what Murray has been doing while out on bond?
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Re: The problem with Murray
March 11, 2010, 08:25:46 PM
Quote from: "MeandMyShadow"
Does anybody know what Murray has been doing while out on bond?


Yeah he's gone back to work as a doctor,but the judge said he could not administer any propofol or other drugs that would put you under.Murray is liar,and a murderer.no he's not hte only one who supplied Michael with drugs,but he's the one who gave MJ the fatal dose.He administered propofol to Michael with out being in a hospital setting,and he left him unattended, then he saw that Michael was not breathing,made 3 phone calls all lasting a total of 47 minutes and he didn't call 911 or try to administer cpr until a half after he made the 3 phone calls.Plus he had the room sweltering with heat,Why would he do that? To keep Michael 's body from getting cold.Murray  needs to be held accountable,and his charge needs to be upgraded to second degree murder.He killed Michael and he needs to pay.He says he gave Michael 25 miligrams of propofol,but that's not enough to knock a small child out,this was revealed during VH1 special about Michael's death.So he killed Michael Jackson,and he has the nerve to plead not guilty.Sorry if I sound upset but this didn't have to be,Michael should still be here with usand Murray robbed us.Now I want justice for Michael.
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Re: The problem with Murray
March 11, 2010, 08:31:11 PM
Quote from: "word"
Quote from: "MeandMyShadow"
Does anybody know what Murray has been doing while out on bond?


Yeah he's gone back to work as a doctor,but the judge said he could not administer any propofol or other drugs that would put you under.Murray is liar,and a murderer.no he's not hte only one who supplied Michael with drugs,but he's the one who gave MJ the fatal dose.He administered propofol to Michael with out being in a hospital setting,and he left him unattended, then he saw that Michael was not breathing,made 3 phone calls all lasting a total of 47 minutes and he didn't call 911 or try to administer cpr until a half after he made the 3 phone calls.Plus he had the room sweltering with heat,Why would he do that? To keep Michael 's body from getting cold.Murray  needs to be held accountable,and his charge needs to be upgraded to second degree murder.He killed Michael and he needs to pay.He says he gave Michael 25 miligrams of propofol,but that's not enough to knock a small child out,this was revealed during VH1 special about Michael's death.So he killed Michael Jackson,and he has the nerve to plead not guilty.Sorry if I sound upset but this didn't have to be,Michael should still be here with usand Murray robbed us.Now I want justice for Michael.

It's okay that you want justice for MJ, but why then are you on a HOAX site?
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Re: The problem with Murray
March 11, 2010, 09:06:59 PM
Quote from: "Chamone"
Quote from: "word"
Quote from: "MeandMyShadow"
Does anybody know what Murray has been doing while out on bond?


Yeah he's gone back to work as a doctor,but the judge said he could not administer any propofol or other drugs that would put you under.Murray is liar,and a murderer.no he's not hte only one who supplied Michael with drugs,but he's the one who gave MJ the fatal dose.He administered propofol to Michael with out being in a hospital setting,and he left him unattended, then he saw that Michael was not breathing,made 3 phone calls all lasting a total of 47 minutes and he didn't call 911 or try to administer cpr until a half after he made the 3 phone calls.Plus he had the room sweltering with heat,Why would he do that? To keep Michael 's body from getting cold.Murray  needs to be held accountable,and his charge needs to be upgraded to second degree murder.He killed Michael and he needs to pay.He says he gave Michael 25 miligrams of propofol,but that's not enough to knock a small child out,this was revealed during VH1 special about Michael's death.So he killed Michael Jackson,and he has the nerve to plead not guilty.Sorry if I sound upset but this didn't have to be,Michael should still be here with usand Murray robbed us.Now I want justice for Michael.

It's okay that you want justice for MJ, but why then are you on a HOAX site?


Some people never learn,it looks like you got time on your hands so here goes,at fisrt I wanted to believe he faked it,but  most of these so called clues are not adding up.I want to know what happened  to MJ and why.Some of the people on here do heve great clues and then again some of  ou don't,but please know that I am not the only one who feeels this way,there are more where I come from.And not all of the topics are about Mj's death,there are some fun topics that I like as well.Sometimes you learn things on here that you never knew,and then you could be teaching someone something about MJ that they never knew...
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Re: The problem with Murray
March 11, 2010, 09:56:55 PM
I think it more important that we search for the truth.  There is some unusual things that have happened and it seems intentional clues indicating a death hoax.  However, if we have been misreading the information and Michael has been murdered it is more important to get justice for Michael.  Either way I want to see the truth come out.
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Re: The problem with Murray
March 12, 2010, 05:16:41 PM
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Yeah he's gone back to work as a doctor,but the judge said he could not administer any propofol or other drugs that would put you under.Murray is liar,and a murderer.no he's not hte only one who supplied Michael with drugs,but he's the one who gave MJ the fatal dose.He administered propofol to Michael with out being in a hospital setting,and he left him unattended, then he saw that Michael was not breathing,made 3 phone calls all lasting a total of 47 minutes and he didn't call 911 or try to administer cpr until a half after he made the 3 phone calls.Plus he had the room sweltering with heat,Why would he do that? To keep Michael 's body from getting cold.Murray needs to be held accountable,and his charge needs to be upgraded to second degree murder.He killed Michael and he needs to pay.He says he gave Michael 25 miligrams of propofol,but that's not enough to knock a small child out,this was revealed during VH1 special about Michael's death.So he killed Michael Jackson,and he has the nerve to plead not guilty.Sorry if I sound upset but this didn't have to be,Michael should still be here with usand Murray robbed us.Now I want justice for Michael.

Your words cut like a knife  :cry:  I know that this is a very likely possibility so it hurts so much. I pray that Michael is alive...
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Re: The problem with Murray
March 14, 2010, 12:28:47 PM
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Yeah he's gone back to work as a doctor,but the judge said he could not administer any propofol or other drugs that would put you under.Murray is liar,and a murderer.no he's not hte only one who supplied Michael with drugs,but he's the one who gave MJ the fatal dose.He administered propofol to Michael with out being in a hospital setting,and he left him unattended, then he saw that Michael was not breathing,made 3 phone calls all lasting a total of 47 minutes and he didn't call 911 or try to administer cpr until a half after he made the 3 phone calls.Plus he had the room sweltering with heat,Why would he do that? To keep Michael 's body from getting cold.Murray needs to be held accountable,and his charge needs to be upgraded to second degree murder.He killed Michael and he needs to pay.He says he gave Michael 25 miligrams of propofol,but that's not enough to knock a small child out,this was revealed during VH1 special about Michael's death.So he killed Michael Jackson,and he has the nerve to plead not guilty.Sorry if I sound upset but this didn't have to be,Michael should still be here with usand Murray robbed us.Now I want justice for Michael.

Your words cut like a knife  :cry:  I know that this is a very likely possibility so it hurts so much. I pray that Michael is alive...
Im sorry,I didn't mean to hurt your feelings,more than anyone I want Michael to be alive,but there is no credible proof that he is alive.I can only hope and wish that he is until other wise.
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