Possible MJ Reveal Date!

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Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 05:02:26 AM
I have been on the Larry King Live blogs today reading and *Michael...love* had been posting. He has had some posted comments removed from  others using the same name as him. He has repeatedly stated that Michael will be returning in the spring.

This got me thinking about the flowers at the burial ceremony and the Liberian photographs...lilies.

So I looked up the date of the coming Easter and found something very interesting and believe me I almost fell off my chair!

I have previously posted about how Easter is celebrated at 2 different times depending on the calendar the religion is using the Gregorian or the Julian. Well look at this!

In the year 2010 Easter Sunday celebrations will be on:
Sunday 4th April 2010

The 2010 Easter Date applies not only to the western calendar (Catholic and Protestant Churches), but also to the The Eastern Orthodox church. This is an unusual event since the two branches of Christianity have different methods for calculating the correct date for Easter. There are only a few years each century when the Easter dates match like this so Easter 2010 is likely to be seen as extra special.

http://http://easter.newarchaeology.com/2010_easter_date.php
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 05:17:51 AM
Im going back to the usa to straighten out my life too in spring so spring's gonna be a big upheaval for me. It would be so wierd if we were tha in tuned with eachother. That would be nuts. But ever since I saw Stevie Wonder cry and one hoax site shut down I feel very doubtful.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 05:30:06 AM
I tweeted it to TNZ and my response...

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@Serenitys_Dream Possible but not necessarily. It's quite late.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 05:47:15 AM
If you are to believe MJawakening.....if you check the dates it will be January 18th when the 7 clues and 7 missions end. Isn't this the date that police mentioned it would be important to the investigation? HM...
However I asked MJawakening on this date and he didn't confirm or deny it either.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 06:31:58 AM
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There are only a few years each century when the Easter dates match like this so Easter 2010 is likely to be seen as extra special.

http://http://easter.newarchaeology.com/2010_easter_date.php

yeah, well, not really only a few years in each century, more than that:
http://http://5ko.free.fr/en/easter.php

regardless, kind of irrelevant for the topic. it would be cool, if that was the date of the "resurrection", although I already said on the old forum that to me it seems early in case Mr. Jackson wanted to get some rest, to get away... if the purpose was something else, then it makes sense to "bam" earlier. (I'm also not sure that the world will be that merciful to him after he comes back from the "dead", people in general hardly accept or acknowledge genious if the performance hurts and scares them, I think that many people will feel betrayed and fooled... if many of his true fans "abandoned" him because of the trials, believing he was something that he isn't, what will happen now? just a thought, I'm not a die-hard fan, I'm just a big admirer who wouldn't want to see him crucified again, as he doesn't deserve it, au contraire...)

I love the TNZ crew (they have an amazing sense of humor),though I don't agree with them 100 %, but it seems they do know more as they are constantly suggesting it, then again, if asked, they suggest you to think (or decide for yourself). seems fishy to me, but whoever they are, they are highly intelligent (and as someone on the old forum also noticed, they often make fun of/mock people who add their comments, without people noticing it at all, just sending L.O.V.E. and similar, not understanding their complex writing style. they can be cruel, true, LOL). so, whoever they are, they are doing a great job, as I told them... just leading or misleading/leading astray.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 06:36:20 AM
well, I've always thought that Michael would not be back sooner than the summer of 2010, that's just my intuition, nothing else. I could very well be wrong, but anyway, that's just my expectation and I'll be nicely surprised if he's back earlier :)
And to be honest, I've always believed he'll be back at the tribute organised by Jermaine next year. I've recently checked the site announcing the tribute and it said ''coming soon". I decided to check it again today and look what opens now - http://www.thetribute2010.com - the World Awards  :shock:
what's that now?!?!?! I thought it'll be in London, at the Wembley Stadium........
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 06:44:21 AM
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I love the TNZ crew (they have an amazing sense of humor),though I don't agree with them 100 %, but it seems they do know more as they are constantly suggesting it, then again, if asked, they suggest you to think (or decide for yourself). seems fishy to me, but whoever they are, they are highly intelligent (and as someone on the old forum also noticed, they often make fun of/mock people who add their comments, without people noticing it at all, just sending L.O.V.E. and similar, not understanding their complex writing style. they can be cruel, true, LOL).
I agree about TNZ - fishy but intelligent or vice versa
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 08:25:04 AM
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And to be honest, I've always believed he'll be back at the tribute organised by Jermaine next year. I've recently checked the site announcing the tribute and it said ''coming soon". I decided to check it again today and look what opens now - http://www.thetribute2010.com - the World Awards  :shock:
what's that now?!?!?! I thought it'll be in London, at the Wembley Stadium........

will I get banned if I start swearing in my language? :feellikepullingmyhairout:

I mean, seriously, this better be a friggin good SHOW!!! I paid 1000 euros for two tickets for that concert in Vienna/London/Bahrain/Burkina Faso/who th knows where, and it would be amazing to know on which continent I'll have to land to see it at all (if I can't know what kind of show it will be at all) *pfft*
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 08:33:45 AM
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And to be honest, I've always believed he'll be back at the tribute organised by Jermaine next year. I've recently checked the site announcing the tribute and it said ''coming soon". I decided to check it again today and look what opens now - http://www.thetribute2010.com - the World Awards  :shock:
what's that now?!?!?! I thought it'll be in London, at the Wembley Stadium........

will I get banned if I start swearing in my language? :feellikepullingmyhairout:

I mean, seriously, this better be a friggin good SHOW!!! I paid 1000 euros for two tickets for that concert in Vienna/London/Bahrain/Burkina Faso/who th knows where, and it would be amazing to know on which continent I'll have to land to see it at all (if I can't know what kind of show it will be at all) *pfft*

wait a sec, didnt you get your money back after they cancelled the Vienna tribute?!  :shock:
Me and my friends got tickets for the Vienna concert planned for Sept'09 but once the concert was cancelled, they paid our money back. Was there an option to keep the ticket for a future tribute concert?!?!
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 08:57:00 AM
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wait a sec, didnt you get your money back after they cancelled the Vienna tribute?!  :shock:
Me and my friends got tickets for the Vienna concert planned for Sept'09 but once the concert was cancelled, they paid our money back. Was there an option to keep the ticket for a future tribute concert?!?!


to make a long(er) story short, the site we bought the tickets from has a note that says that they don't do refunds... http://http://www.theonlineticketshop.com/
honestly, I don't want the money back, I just want to know where I'll have to go to attend that... exotic event... maybe only to listen Joe Jackson sing ABC or Rockin' Robbin while dancing to a crazy coreography or whatever...  
in the end that tribute will be a fashion week or stg...
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 09:04:18 AM
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And to be honest, I've always believed he'll be back at the tribute organised by Jermaine next year.

What a poor comeback that would make ! No imagination, no fun, nothing great or stunning ! That's not him !
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 09:10:40 AM
I doubt that he would come back during Easter. People will draw parallels between his come back and Jesus Christ's resurrection; they would think he is comparing himself to Christ. That would not go down well with all the Christians. Not that his comeback would be easily accepted anyway, but..that would just add to the hell that will break loose. MJ is so very humble, so I know that wouldn't be his intention & he would be aware of this and thus steer clear of that date. Nonetheless, if MJ comes back, I will be waiting for him with open arms. I don't care what day it is!  :)
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 09:24:36 AM
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And to be honest, I've always believed he'll be back at the tribute organised by Jermaine next year.

What a poor comeback that would make ! No imagination, no fun, nothing great or stunning ! That's not him !

well, we never ever know, do we...  8-)
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 09:53:12 AM
Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 09:56:47 AM
A much as I want him to come back as soon as possible, April would be cool, too. I'm moving to LA in April :)
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 10:05:16 AM
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Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.

I'm not hoping for him to return, for instance. I prefer to think that he's doing what he wants. and I've tried to say more than once (in other forums) what you just said though in a more, let's say, mild tone because noone wants to hear it, and everyone would ignore me, but words in bold say it all... I don't think he'd be appreciated for the "great spectacle", but as I said in one of the posts above, crucified/eaten alive.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 10:09:07 AM
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Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.

I know this..I agree. Its what I believe too. But it's nice to dream, isn't it?  :)  Life is full of surprises.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 10:12:38 AM
Easter is connected with the Oster hares .... the hare  ;)
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 01:04:45 PM
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Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.

yes, I know what you are saying, I agree with that. My fear is the same - that he will be crucified, he should not go through this  :cry: Of course I dont want Michael back at any cost. If he plans not to come back, he would not, I think that's already decided. He and the people he's doing this with must have already weighed the pros and cons or the reason behind this all is. It is just that I feel he would be back, that's all   :roll:
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 01:05:45 PM
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Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.

yes, I know what you are saying, I agree with that. My fear is the same - that he will be crucified, he should not go through this  :cry: Of course I dont want Michael back at any cost. If he plans not to come back, he would not, I think that's already decided. He and the people he's doing this with must have already weighed the pros and cons or whatever the reason behind this all is. It is just that I feel he would be back, that's all   :roll:
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 01:10:02 PM
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Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.

I've already read some of your posts with similar content and I respect your opinion and your point of view. I really see what you mean. However, once I don't know the real reason behind the hoax  (if there's a hoax), I can't state that "he can't come back" as if it was the ultimate truth. Everything is possible and I think it's ok to keep an open mind about a possible come back. If he came back, it would be because he knew what he was doing. We don't know what would be the explanations and the reasons behind it (at least I don't).

In my opinion the only thing that can stop him from coming back is if he has really died on June 25th. If he has not, so I think anything can happen. That's why I would not state that he can't come back with such a certainty. Just my opinion though.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 06:13:34 PM
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Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.

I've already read some of your posts with similar content and I respect your opinion and your point of view. I really see what you mean. However, once I don't know the real reason behind the hoax  (if there's a hoax), I can't state that "he can't come back" as if it was the ultimate truth. Everything is possible and I think it's ok to keep an open mind about a possible come back. If he came back, it would be because he knew what he was doing. We don't know what would be the explanations and the reasons behind it (at least I don't).

In my opinion the only thing that can stop him from coming back is if he has really died on June 25th. If he has not, so I think anything can happen. That's why I would not state that he can't come back with such a certainty. Just my opinion though.


I agree. We do not know the reason for what happened on June 25th. If his disappearance is all about publicity and money, yes the media will definitely crucify him. However if what happened is for a deeper reason, which I truly believe, then hopefully the media will leave him alone.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 06:36:26 PM
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Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.

I've already read some of your posts with similar content and I respect your opinion and your point of view. I really see what you mean. However, once I don't know the real reason behind the hoax  (if there's a hoax), I can't state that "he can't come back" as if it was the ultimate truth. Everything is possible and I think it's ok to keep an open mind about a possible come back. If he came back, it would be because he knew what he was doing. We don't know what would be the explanations and the reasons behind it (at least I don't).

In my opinion the only thing that can stop him from coming back is if he has really died on June 25th. If he has not, so I think anything can happen. That's why I would not state that he can't come back with such a certainty. Just my opinion though.


I agree. We do not know the reason for what happened on June 25th. If his disappearance is all about publicity and money, yes the media will definitely crucify him. However if what happened is for a deeper reason, which I truly believe, then hopefully the media will leave him alone.
But do you honestly think the media will leave him alone? They now think he is dead and he is still getting the name Wacko! they have no shame at all and no consideration on feelings, he was still ripped to shreds in the tabloids when he was cleared of the charges in 05 and did any of the papers praise him and admit they were possibly cruel and wrong when he was completely innocent and cleared of all charges? Answer is no.
The only reason I believe he can come back is if his life was in danger and then that danger is removed and eradicated, but then I think of his age and think noooo! am sorry but there is no mild way to write an opinion of such strong reasons why I do not think he can come back. This is serious stuff.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 06:46:50 PM
Well and you gotta remember Kenny Ortega's tweet on twitter. (he deleted it after people became suspicious.) He quoted part of Peter Pan. The conversation between Captian Hook and Smee. "Smee: Captain, the ice is melting, the sun is out, and the flowers are all in bloom... Captain Hook: He's back." When Hook says, "He's back" he is talking about Peter Pan. Smee is telling Hook it is springtime (the ice melted and the flowers are blooming.), and then BAM! Peter Pan comes back. We all know MJ called himself Peter Pan. And then Kenny says, "Don't try to look for hidden messages." Uh...usually if someone says not to do something like that, people are obviously gonna look for hidden messages!
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 06:54:07 PM
Quote from: "Lou"
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.

I've already read some of your posts with similar content and I respect your opinion and your point of view. I really see what you mean. However, once I don't know the real reason behind the hoax  (if there's a hoax), I can't state that "he can't come back" as if it was the ultimate truth. Everything is possible and I think it's ok to keep an open mind about a possible come back. If he came back, it would be because he knew what he was doing. We don't know what would be the explanations and the reasons behind it (at least I don't).

In my opinion the only thing that can stop him from coming back is if he has really died on June 25th. If he has not, so I think anything can happen. That's why I would not state that he can't come back with such a certainty. Just my opinion though.

Thank you, Lou. You beat me to the punch and your comment repeats what I've already said on other threads here and in other forums.

People who insist that Michael won't/can't come back are jumping the gun. Why? Because they offer this, that, or the other reason for why a comeback is impossible or unlikely without even knowing exactly why Michael's death was faked in the first place ***AND*** without knowing if Michael was even the person responsible for his death being faked.

In the second case, maybe an agency intervened and advised him that faking his death was necessary for whatever reason and Michael accepted/agreed that that was what needed to be done. I still maintain that nobody knows what Michael would do unless they know him personally and know what's going on with the circumstances regarding June 25.

Maybe he'll return, maybe he won't. And if he does come back, who can say that would mean some flashy, glitzy, splashy extravaganza? Nobody can. Maybe he'll just show up again when everyone least expects it, or maybe he'll appear in court as a surprise witness. There are numerous ways Michael could return, and some would not cause any/much more hatred and criticism than he's received in the past.

Great thread, by the way. I've enjoyed reading everyone's opinions.
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