Possible MJ Reveal Date!

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Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 05:02:26 AM
I have been on the Larry King Live blogs today reading and *Michael...love* had been posting. He has had some posted comments removed from  others using the same name as him. He has repeatedly stated that Michael will be returning in the spring.

This got me thinking about the flowers at the burial ceremony and the Liberian photographs...lilies.

So I looked up the date of the coming Easter and found something very interesting and believe me I almost fell off my chair!

I have previously posted about how Easter is celebrated at 2 different times depending on the calendar the religion is using the Gregorian or the Julian. Well look at this!

In the year 2010 Easter Sunday celebrations will be on:
Sunday 4th April 2010

The 2010 Easter Date applies not only to the western calendar (Catholic and Protestant Churches), but also to the The Eastern Orthodox church. This is an unusual event since the two branches of Christianity have different methods for calculating the correct date for Easter. There are only a few years each century when the Easter dates match like this so Easter 2010 is likely to be seen as extra special.

http://http://easter.newarchaeology.com/2010_easter_date.php
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 05:17:51 AM
Im going back to the usa to straighten out my life too in spring so spring's gonna be a big upheaval for me. It would be so wierd if we were tha in tuned with eachother. That would be nuts. But ever since I saw Stevie Wonder cry and one hoax site shut down I feel very doubtful.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 05:30:06 AM
I tweeted it to TNZ and my response...

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@Serenitys_Dream Possible but not necessarily. It's quite late.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 05:47:15 AM
If you are to believe MJawakening.....if you check the dates it will be January 18th when the 7 clues and 7 missions end. Isn't this the date that police mentioned it would be important to the investigation? HM...
However I asked MJawakening on this date and he didn't confirm or deny it either.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 06:31:58 AM
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There are only a few years each century when the Easter dates match like this so Easter 2010 is likely to be seen as extra special.

http://http://easter.newarchaeology.com/2010_easter_date.php

yeah, well, not really only a few years in each century, more than that:
http://http://5ko.free.fr/en/easter.php

regardless, kind of irrelevant for the topic. it would be cool, if that was the date of the "resurrection", although I already said on the old forum that to me it seems early in case Mr. Jackson wanted to get some rest, to get away... if the purpose was something else, then it makes sense to "bam" earlier. (I'm also not sure that the world will be that merciful to him after he comes back from the "dead", people in general hardly accept or acknowledge genious if the performance hurts and scares them, I think that many people will feel betrayed and fooled... if many of his true fans "abandoned" him because of the trials, believing he was something that he isn't, what will happen now? just a thought, I'm not a die-hard fan, I'm just a big admirer who wouldn't want to see him crucified again, as he doesn't deserve it, au contraire...)

I love the TNZ crew (they have an amazing sense of humor),though I don't agree with them 100 %, but it seems they do know more as they are constantly suggesting it, then again, if asked, they suggest you to think (or decide for yourself). seems fishy to me, but whoever they are, they are highly intelligent (and as someone on the old forum also noticed, they often make fun of/mock people who add their comments, without people noticing it at all, just sending L.O.V.E. and similar, not understanding their complex writing style. they can be cruel, true, LOL). so, whoever they are, they are doing a great job, as I told them... just leading or misleading/leading astray.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 06:36:20 AM
well, I've always thought that Michael would not be back sooner than the summer of 2010, that's just my intuition, nothing else. I could very well be wrong, but anyway, that's just my expectation and I'll be nicely surprised if he's back earlier :)
And to be honest, I've always believed he'll be back at the tribute organised by Jermaine next year. I've recently checked the site announcing the tribute and it said ''coming soon". I decided to check it again today and look what opens now - http://www.thetribute2010.com - the World Awards  :shock:
what's that now?!?!?! I thought it'll be in London, at the Wembley Stadium........
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 06:44:21 AM
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I love the TNZ crew (they have an amazing sense of humor),though I don't agree with them 100 %, but it seems they do know more as they are constantly suggesting it, then again, if asked, they suggest you to think (or decide for yourself). seems fishy to me, but whoever they are, they are highly intelligent (and as someone on the old forum also noticed, they often make fun of/mock people who add their comments, without people noticing it at all, just sending L.O.V.E. and similar, not understanding their complex writing style. they can be cruel, true, LOL).
I agree about TNZ - fishy but intelligent or vice versa
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 08:25:04 AM
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And to be honest, I've always believed he'll be back at the tribute organised by Jermaine next year. I've recently checked the site announcing the tribute and it said ''coming soon". I decided to check it again today and look what opens now - http://www.thetribute2010.com - the World Awards  :shock:
what's that now?!?!?! I thought it'll be in London, at the Wembley Stadium........

will I get banned if I start swearing in my language? :feellikepullingmyhairout:

I mean, seriously, this better be a friggin good SHOW!!! I paid 1000 euros for two tickets for that concert in Vienna/London/Bahrain/Burkina Faso/who th knows where, and it would be amazing to know on which continent I'll have to land to see it at all (if I can't know what kind of show it will be at all) *pfft*
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 08:33:45 AM
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And to be honest, I've always believed he'll be back at the tribute organised by Jermaine next year. I've recently checked the site announcing the tribute and it said ''coming soon". I decided to check it again today and look what opens now - http://www.thetribute2010.com - the World Awards  :shock:
what's that now?!?!?! I thought it'll be in London, at the Wembley Stadium........

will I get banned if I start swearing in my language? :feellikepullingmyhairout:

I mean, seriously, this better be a friggin good SHOW!!! I paid 1000 euros for two tickets for that concert in Vienna/London/Bahrain/Burkina Faso/who th knows where, and it would be amazing to know on which continent I'll have to land to see it at all (if I can't know what kind of show it will be at all) *pfft*

wait a sec, didnt you get your money back after they cancelled the Vienna tribute?!  :shock:
Me and my friends got tickets for the Vienna concert planned for Sept'09 but once the concert was cancelled, they paid our money back. Was there an option to keep the ticket for a future tribute concert?!?!
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 08:57:00 AM
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wait a sec, didnt you get your money back after they cancelled the Vienna tribute?!  :shock:
Me and my friends got tickets for the Vienna concert planned for Sept'09 but once the concert was cancelled, they paid our money back. Was there an option to keep the ticket for a future tribute concert?!?!


to make a long(er) story short, the site we bought the tickets from has a note that says that they don't do refunds... http://http://www.theonlineticketshop.com/
honestly, I don't want the money back, I just want to know where I'll have to go to attend that... exotic event... maybe only to listen Joe Jackson sing ABC or Rockin' Robbin while dancing to a crazy coreography or whatever...  
in the end that tribute will be a fashion week or stg...
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 09:04:18 AM
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And to be honest, I've always believed he'll be back at the tribute organised by Jermaine next year.

What a poor comeback that would make ! No imagination, no fun, nothing great or stunning ! That's not him !
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 09:10:40 AM
I doubt that he would come back during Easter. People will draw parallels between his come back and Jesus Christ's resurrection; they would think he is comparing himself to Christ. That would not go down well with all the Christians. Not that his comeback would be easily accepted anyway, but..that would just add to the hell that will break loose. MJ is so very humble, so I know that wouldn't be his intention & he would be aware of this and thus steer clear of that date. Nonetheless, if MJ comes back, I will be waiting for him with open arms. I don't care what day it is!  :)
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 09:24:36 AM
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And to be honest, I've always believed he'll be back at the tribute organised by Jermaine next year.

What a poor comeback that would make ! No imagination, no fun, nothing great or stunning ! That's not him !

well, we never ever know, do we...  8-)
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 09:53:12 AM
Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 09:56:47 AM
A much as I want him to come back as soon as possible, April would be cool, too. I'm moving to LA in April :)
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 10:05:16 AM
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Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.

I'm not hoping for him to return, for instance. I prefer to think that he's doing what he wants. and I've tried to say more than once (in other forums) what you just said though in a more, let's say, mild tone because noone wants to hear it, and everyone would ignore me, but words in bold say it all... I don't think he'd be appreciated for the "great spectacle", but as I said in one of the posts above, crucified/eaten alive.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 10:09:07 AM
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Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.

I know this..I agree. Its what I believe too. But it's nice to dream, isn't it?  :)  Life is full of surprises.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 10:12:38 AM
Easter is connected with the Oster hares .... the hare  ;)
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 01:04:45 PM
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Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.

yes, I know what you are saying, I agree with that. My fear is the same - that he will be crucified, he should not go through this  :cry: Of course I dont want Michael back at any cost. If he plans not to come back, he would not, I think that's already decided. He and the people he's doing this with must have already weighed the pros and cons or the reason behind this all is. It is just that I feel he would be back, that's all   :roll:
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 01:05:45 PM
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Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.

yes, I know what you are saying, I agree with that. My fear is the same - that he will be crucified, he should not go through this  :cry: Of course I dont want Michael back at any cost. If he plans not to come back, he would not, I think that's already decided. He and the people he's doing this with must have already weighed the pros and cons or whatever the reason behind this all is. It is just that I feel he would be back, that's all   :roll:
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 01:10:02 PM
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Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.

I've already read some of your posts with similar content and I respect your opinion and your point of view. I really see what you mean. However, once I don't know the real reason behind the hoax  (if there's a hoax), I can't state that "he can't come back" as if it was the ultimate truth. Everything is possible and I think it's ok to keep an open mind about a possible come back. If he came back, it would be because he knew what he was doing. We don't know what would be the explanations and the reasons behind it (at least I don't).

In my opinion the only thing that can stop him from coming back is if he has really died on June 25th. If he has not, so I think anything can happen. That's why I would not state that he can't come back with such a certainty. Just my opinion though.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 06:13:34 PM
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Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.

I've already read some of your posts with similar content and I respect your opinion and your point of view. I really see what you mean. However, once I don't know the real reason behind the hoax  (if there's a hoax), I can't state that "he can't come back" as if it was the ultimate truth. Everything is possible and I think it's ok to keep an open mind about a possible come back. If he came back, it would be because he knew what he was doing. We don't know what would be the explanations and the reasons behind it (at least I don't).

In my opinion the only thing that can stop him from coming back is if he has really died on June 25th. If he has not, so I think anything can happen. That's why I would not state that he can't come back with such a certainty. Just my opinion though.


I agree. We do not know the reason for what happened on June 25th. If his disappearance is all about publicity and money, yes the media will definitely crucify him. However if what happened is for a deeper reason, which I truly believe, then hopefully the media will leave him alone.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 06:36:26 PM
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Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.

I've already read some of your posts with similar content and I respect your opinion and your point of view. I really see what you mean. However, once I don't know the real reason behind the hoax  (if there's a hoax), I can't state that "he can't come back" as if it was the ultimate truth. Everything is possible and I think it's ok to keep an open mind about a possible come back. If he came back, it would be because he knew what he was doing. We don't know what would be the explanations and the reasons behind it (at least I don't).

In my opinion the only thing that can stop him from coming back is if he has really died on June 25th. If he has not, so I think anything can happen. That's why I would not state that he can't come back with such a certainty. Just my opinion though.


I agree. We do not know the reason for what happened on June 25th. If his disappearance is all about publicity and money, yes the media will definitely crucify him. However if what happened is for a deeper reason, which I truly believe, then hopefully the media will leave him alone.
But do you honestly think the media will leave him alone? They now think he is dead and he is still getting the name Wacko! they have no shame at all and no consideration on feelings, he was still ripped to shreds in the tabloids when he was cleared of the charges in 05 and did any of the papers praise him and admit they were possibly cruel and wrong when he was completely innocent and cleared of all charges? Answer is no.
The only reason I believe he can come back is if his life was in danger and then that danger is removed and eradicated, but then I think of his age and think noooo! am sorry but there is no mild way to write an opinion of such strong reasons why I do not think he can come back. This is serious stuff.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 06:46:50 PM
Well and you gotta remember Kenny Ortega's tweet on twitter. (he deleted it after people became suspicious.) He quoted part of Peter Pan. The conversation between Captian Hook and Smee. "Smee: Captain, the ice is melting, the sun is out, and the flowers are all in bloom... Captain Hook: He's back." When Hook says, "He's back" he is talking about Peter Pan. Smee is telling Hook it is springtime (the ice melted and the flowers are blooming.), and then BAM! Peter Pan comes back. We all know MJ called himself Peter Pan. And then Kenny says, "Don't try to look for hidden messages." Uh...usually if someone says not to do something like that, people are obviously gonna look for hidden messages!
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 06:54:07 PM
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Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.

I've already read some of your posts with similar content and I respect your opinion and your point of view. I really see what you mean. However, once I don't know the real reason behind the hoax  (if there's a hoax), I can't state that "he can't come back" as if it was the ultimate truth. Everything is possible and I think it's ok to keep an open mind about a possible come back. If he came back, it would be because he knew what he was doing. We don't know what would be the explanations and the reasons behind it (at least I don't).

In my opinion the only thing that can stop him from coming back is if he has really died on June 25th. If he has not, so I think anything can happen. That's why I would not state that he can't come back with such a certainty. Just my opinion though.

Thank you, Lou. You beat me to the punch and your comment repeats what I've already said on other threads here and in other forums.

People who insist that Michael won't/can't come back are jumping the gun. Why? Because they offer this, that, or the other reason for why a comeback is impossible or unlikely without even knowing exactly why Michael's death was faked in the first place ***AND*** without knowing if Michael was even the person responsible for his death being faked.

In the second case, maybe an agency intervened and advised him that faking his death was necessary for whatever reason and Michael accepted/agreed that that was what needed to be done. I still maintain that nobody knows what Michael would do unless they know him personally and know what's going on with the circumstances regarding June 25.

Maybe he'll return, maybe he won't. And if he does come back, who can say that would mean some flashy, glitzy, splashy extravaganza? Nobody can. Maybe he'll just show up again when everyone least expects it, or maybe he'll appear in court as a surprise witness. There are numerous ways Michael could return, and some would not cause any/much more hatred and criticism than he's received in the past.

Great thread, by the way. I've enjoyed reading everyone's opinions.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 11:41:43 PM
I do not think it would be wise for him to come back.  The legal reprecussions alone would be overwhelming.  There would be even more lawsuits and the media would try to slaughter him.  If he is enjoying a "normal life" somewhere he should stay there and do all the things he never was able to do.  He deserves peace after the life he has lead before.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 12:18:00 AM
Warning..this is a long one..

I believe he will come back. Now whether it's in January, April or June- that I am not sure of, but I think he will come back. I feel really strongly about this because why would he be going through all of this: This Is It and the clues, Cassandra, Dr.Murray, and TMZ- all the glitches if he wasn't coming back.What would be the point of us knowing that he is alive if he has no intention of ever stepping in the spotlight and returning back to his "regular life". If that would be true, Michael Jackson would be dead as we know it whether we like it or not. I think when and if he returns the media will have a field day. But once he speaks out, which I think he will be exspected to have some type of explanation, it would change the way the whole tabloid business runs.

I believe he is alive and watching. He has to be. I think he has certain people stationed to give us clues or leak certain comments. However, I think it's only to a certain extent. I don't think there would be that many flaws in the conspiracy, I think he did it intentionally so we would catch it. I feel he wants his fans to believe in the fact that he is alive, but not be overwhelmed with that fact. Michael figured his death would lead us to the windows of his heart. By knowing he 'died', we all did what was planned. We flocked to his old interviews,music videos, award appearances, and dug up our old records, movies and posters. And through that all I think we found the real reason why he did this all. For L.O.V.E., and to open the eyes of the world and let them see what is really going on. We need to wake up and realize that we are going to lose it, the world if we don't act quickly. I believe this might have had something to do with Michael's personal life but only to a certain extent. I think this is about something greater, something greater than all of us. We are all playing apart in this "great adventure". I'm honored to be apart of it and think we are just going to have to sit back and wait and see.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 12:21:30 AM
Michael already has been crucified.

Michael has not broken any laws in the United States in the process of this hoax. I wish people would stop perpetuating that misinformation.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 12:34:03 AM
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Warning..this is a long one..

I believe he will come back. Now whether it's in January, April or June- that I am not sure of, but I think he will come back. I feel really strongly about this because why would he be going through all of this: This Is It and the clues, Cassandra, Dr.Murray, and TMZ- all the glitches if he wasn't coming back.What would be the point of us knowing that he is alive if he has no intention of ever stepping in the spotlight and returning back to his "regular life". If that would be true, Michael Jackson would be dead as we know it whether we like it or not. I think when and if he returns the media will have a field day. But once he speaks out, which I think he will be exspected to have some type of explanation, it would change the way the whole tabloid business runs.

I believe he is alive and watching. He has to be. I think he has certain people stationed to give us clues or leak certain comments. However, I think it's only to a certain extent. I don't think there would be that many flaws in the conspiracy, I think he did it intentionally so we would catch it. I feel he wants his fans to believe in the fact that he is alive, but not be overwhelmed with that fact. Michael figured his death would lead us to the windows of his heart. By knowing he 'died', we all did what was planned. We flocked to his old interviews,music videos, award appearances, and dug up our old records, movies and posters. And through that all I think we found the real reason why he did this all. For L.O.V.E., and to open the eyes of the world and let them see what is really going on. We need to wake up and realize that we are going to lose it, the world if we don't act quickly. I believe this might have had something to do with Michael's personal life but only to a certain extent. I think this is about something greater, something greater than all of us. We are all playing apart in this "great adventure". I'm honored to be apart of it and think we are just going to have to sit back and wait and see.

AMEN! Im happy to be a part of it too!
If he is coming back I swear to God Im gonna tattoo his initials on myself! And I dont have any tats hehe :}

~K~
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 01:09:31 AM
First off, I do not believe MJ would necessarily be trashed by the media if he were to come back.  The media will look very stupid if he does come back.  And I think they will stand to make a lot of money for their coverage of such an earth shattering event. I think all the people who so earnestly believed all the lies surrounding this "death" would be in a state of shock. I've talked to people who aren't even fans about the possibility that Michael faked his death and not one person has said anything mean or hateful.  One person said "He did it for the money." Another said "He did it for his children..to restore his reputation."  Another said "He did it to get out of the spotlight." Another said "He did it to get out of the concerts." Another said "He went into rehab." Another said "He did it to get back at the media."  Not one person said "There goes that freaky Michael Jackson again" or anything like that. I think a lot of people think Michael got screwed over by the media throughout his adult life, and especially during the trial..and a lot of people...a LOT of people would be very happy to see the media get what they gave.  Not to be totally off-track, though....I know this is a thread about the "Reveal Date."  I keep visualizing a TV appearance..a serious one in which he addresses the world as to why he did the hoax.  I imagine it would be a really big, global BAM and that he would use that BAM to get people stirred up about the sorry state of our world.  And use that BAM to wake people up to the "garbage" they are fed everyday from the media, which is where all of us get our (fake) information.  I do think MJ had a real affinity for Christ so I don't think it would be unlikely for him to come back at Easter...although some may think so.  I would like for it not only to be a ressurection but a second coming.  We need a second coming...we are on a path of self-destruction on a global scale.  MJ is the most famous person in the world...he is known in every country...so who better to get people's attention.  I also think that he would get a lot of respect.  I don't think people/media would dare disrespect a man who slammed them on their asses so hard.  Maybe this is all just wishful thinking.  Some days I don't think he will be back...and other days I remember all the funny stuff in this whole saga. The 2 shoot ambo videos, the crazy Murray lawyers, the goofy memorial, hat man and blonde woman, the fake pharmacy, the bloody blouse, the fake 911 call where the dispatcher hangs up..there is a lot of funny stuff...the sitting up in the helicopter...and that makes me think MJ is egging us on.  Remember he died of "cardiac arrest."  And remember, he said "I'll breathe in my own time."  Well I am holding my breath because I do think it is possible that he could come back.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 01:49:03 AM
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Michael already has been crucified.

Michael has not broken any laws in the United States in the process of this hoax. I wish people would stop perpetuating that misinformation.


THANK YOU! There can be no legal repercussions in this particular situation. The truth needs to be told. He has already been slaughtered and degraded to the lowest class of existence - remember the child "misconduct" allegations? Many people still believe he may have been guilty! How much more can they do to him? This video explains very well why there have been no laws broken if this is indeed a "hoax": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSAD0psgqhE
It was made by MJFanFOREVERAndADAY
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 01:55:42 AM
We all know that if Michael came back "from the dead" the media would kill him a second time.  There would be so many whacko jacko dead man walking jokes and everything else that he would not be able to handle it.  NO.  I don't wish that on Michael ever again.  I want him to be happy and content and what ever it is that he's trying to find, I pray he finds it 1000 fold.  I only hope that he will somehow find a way to say I'm good, get some kind of message to his bleeding fans, so we could know for sure.  I want him to find true love and get married, get away from all that solitude.  I want him to experience real love just like the love he gives to everyone he meets.  I will say something I never thought I would say, let alone mean it, but I would give my life if it would guarantee that Michael could live peacefully and with dignity on this planet again.  That man suffered so much unnecessary heartache and shame and degradation while giving all he had to make everyone else happy, that I feel it would be the Godly thing to do.  I have lived and though I have had many bad breaks, they have been nothing in comparison to the inhumane treatment he has suffered in the name of love.  Michael's only crime was that he loved.  He loved and believed in love.  Can anybody tell me anything else he did?  How does that warrant what was allowed to be done to him?  Christ, I just don't understand it.  Love is pure.  Love is eternal.  Love is immortal.  Michael is love.  They can kill the man, but they cannot kill the dream.  If he died, it was all for love.  It is criminal, actually it's a sin, and someone is going to suffer dearly for it.  I feel in my heart that Michael is still alive, but that he is broken.  I don't think he feels he has anything to live for if he doesn't have his music and his performances.  Why?  Because he was driven to believe that as a child.  It was instilled in him by dear old dad.  He had to do it to be accepted.  He had to be the best.  He had to because that was all he was good for.  The really sad thing would be that if Michael is still alive and has been watching how his father has not shown any real emotion about his alleged death.  In the event he was not in on the hoax, that would tear Michael apart.  No, I don't want Michael to ever feel the pain he has felt most of his life.  MICHAEL JUST BE HAPPY.  WE LOVE YOU JUST THE WAY YOU ARE.  ALWAYS HAVE.  ALWAYS, ALWAYS WILL.  KNOW THESE THINGS, MICHAEL AND BELIEVE THEM.  WE BELIEVE IN YOU!
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 12:32:55 PM
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Michael already has been crucified.

Michael has not broken any laws in the United States in the process of this hoax. I wish people would stop perpetuating that misinformation.


THANK YOU! There can be no legal repercussions in this particular situation. The truth needs to be told. He has already been slaughtered and degraded to the lowest class of existence - remember the child "misconduct" allegations? Many people still believe he may have been guilty! How much more can they do to him? This video explains very well why there have been no laws broken if this is indeed a "hoax": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSAD0psgqhE
It was made by MJFanFOREVERAndADAY
It is most definetely fraud to hoax your death for financial gain-that is a criminal offence. We know it is not for life insurance purposes but the sales of CDs, memorabilia,etc etc have esculated and hit the roof. He has never made so much money since the days of "Thriller" and the few years later. He was well aware of this fact as the Elvis estate made tons more after his death than ever in his lifetime and as Michael was married to Elvis's Daughter he can hardly plead ignorance can he? You can bury your heads in the sand and refuse to face facts but these are facts. His famiy have hosted a memorial, a burial and have all done several interviews regarding Michaels "passing" and absolutely stacks of money have been made-more than for years and you think this is not fraud? Unless he was in danger and its a witness protection thing then he will face serious charges and repercussions as will his family as even his Mother and children are benefitting from his death. He will also be sued for not doing the 50 concerts. Not good things to face up to in the likelthood of a return eh?
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 12:58:37 PM
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Quote from: "bec"
Michael already has been crucified.

Michael has not broken any laws in the United States in the process of this hoax. I wish people would stop perpetuating that misinformation.


THANK YOU! There can be no legal repercussions in this particular situation. The truth needs to be told. He has already been slaughtered and degraded to the lowest class of existence - remember the child "misconduct" allegations? Many people still believe he may have been guilty! How much more can they do to him? This video explains very well why there have been no laws broken if this is indeed a "hoax": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSAD0psgqhE
It was made by MJFanFOREVERAndADAY
It is most definetely fraud to hoax your death for financial gain-that is a criminal offence. We know it is not for life insurance purposes but the sales of CDs, memorabilia,etc etc have esculated and hit the roof. He has never made so much money since the days of "Thriller" and the few years later. He was well aware of this fact as the Elvis estate made tons more after his death than ever in his lifetime and as Michael was married to Elvis's Daughter he can hardly plead ignorance can he? You can bury your heads in the sand and refuse to face facts but these are facts. His famiy have hosted a memorial, a burial and have all done several interviews regarding Michaels "passing" and absolutely stacks of money have been made-more than for years and you think this is not fraud? Unless he was in danger and its a witness protection thing then he will face serious charges and repercussions as will his family as even his Mother and children are benefitting from his death. He will also be sued for not doing the 50 concerts. Not good things to face up to in the likelthood of a return eh?

The highlighted part is true, however Michael did not force anyone to start buying his albums. If the reason for this hoax would be a financial one yes it would be a crime. But if there is another reason behind all of this they will not be able to claim that. It would just be a coincedence. Fact is a lot of people have become fans of his after his death. Not directly because he is dead but by discovering his music once again. That is not a crime. ( I personally haven't bought that much of his just because he died, I already was a fan for several years)

You don't know if he would be sued for not doing the 50 concerts. Again we don't know the reason behind all of this. Maybe this decision was not his own but he had to do it. Also the promoters behind the concerts have already made plenty of money to compensate the fact that the concerts didn't happen. In fact maybe they even know why this whole thing happened. We don't know that.

Btw exactly how are his mother and his children bennefitting from this financially? As far as I know they are using Michael's money to get by so how is that against the law?
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 01:27:34 PM
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The highlighted part is true, however Michael did not force anyone to start buying his albums. If the reason for this hoax would be a financial one yes it would be a crime. But if there is another reason behind all of this they will not be able to claim that. It would just be a coincedence. Fact is a lot of people have become fans of his after his death. Not directly because he is dead but by discovering his music once again. That is not a crime. ( I personally haven't bought that much of his just because he died, I already was a fan for several years)

You don't know if he would be sued for not doing the 50 concerts. Again we don't know the reason behind all of this. Maybe this decision was not his own but he had to do it. Also the promoters behind the concerts have already made plenty of money to compensate the fact that the concerts didn't happen. In fact maybe they even know why this whole thing happened. We don't know that.

Btw exactly how are his mother and his children bennefitting from this financially? As far as I know they are using Michael's money to get by so how is that against the law?

I agree. I believe he had to do it, he had no other choice. And I do not think he is gaining anything financially. I think he must be apart of the witness protection program or working along with the CIA, I believe that was stated before, I think that would be one of the main reasons Michael could pull this off. It had to happen, for what ever reason why, i think he was forced.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 03:14:20 PM
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Sorry guys but I think it is all wishful thinking. How can he possibly come back? Can you not consider all the repercussions? As much as I would like to have faith in his return I cannot. So you all think he has made all his billions of fans worldwide, including children think he was dead and had his family hold a memirial and funeral and lie to the media and TV broadcasting companies worldwide to do a comeback? I am unhappy to say this but I truly believe that this time next year you will still be awaiting his return. He is 51, not 20 or 30- many people retire at his age and he has suffered so much in the last few years-why are you hoping he will come back?- the media would crucify him and the hate he will feel from various sources round the world would be immense, before would have seemed like a rehearsal. You want him back but it would be not to Michaels advantage would it? You think he will want to come back to a very traumatic and cruel public life he had before with all the hate and BS he had to endure?  He hated that. He cannot come back.


You may be right and I know a lot f people believe he will come back because it's too hard otherwise. How can you be sure he is still alive if yiy won't ever have proofs ? How can you keep on hoping ?

it's a real question ^^ I'm not lecturing lol
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 04:43:55 PM
Lorrie, Good point about Mike returning in maybe a court case as a surprise witness... Maybe Dr Murray's murder trial... Mike bursts into court and says 'he didn't kill me, I'm Alive and I'm here forever!!' :-)

Just a thought, the Chief of police running the enquiry isn't called Frank Drebin is he? because all this just reminds me of Naked Gun. :-)
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 06:29:38 PM
I think i will just wait and see, i dont really get to hung up on dates. I just think its gonna take a while. I cant see why it would be a year, i mean weve been waiting for Tupac for 13 years now and still nothing :!:  :roll:
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 06:58:45 PM
It was made by MJFanFOREVERAndADAY[/quote]
It is most definetely fraud to hoax your death for financial gain-that is a criminal offence. We know it is not for life insurance purposes but the sales of CDs, memorabilia,etc etc have esculated and hit the roof. He has never made so much money since the days of "Thriller" and the few years later. He was well aware of this fact as the Elvis estate made tons more after his death than ever in his lifetime and as Michael was married to Elvis's Daughter he can hardly plead ignorance can he? You can bury your heads in the sand and refuse to face facts but these are facts. His famiy have hosted a memorial, a burial and have all done several interviews regarding Michaels "passing" and absolutely stacks of money have been made-more than for years and you think this is not fraud? Unless he was in danger and its a witness protection thing then he will face serious charges and repercussions as will his family as even his Mother and children are benefitting from his death. He will also be sued for not doing the 50 concerts. Not good things to face up to in the likelthood of a return eh?[/quote]

The highlighted part is true, however Michael did not force anyone to start buying his albums. If the reason for this hoax would be a financial one yes it would be a crime. But if there is another reason behind all of this they will not be able to claim that. It would just be a coincedence. Fact is a lot of people have become fans of his after his death. Not directly because he is dead but by discovering his music once again. That is not a crime. ( I personally haven't bought that much of his just because he died, I already was a fan for several years)

You don't know if he would be sued for not doing the 50 concerts. Again we don't know the reason behind all of this. Maybe this decision was not his own but he had to do it. Also the promoters behind the concerts have already made plenty of money to compensate the fact that the concerts didn't happen. In fact maybe they even know why this whole thing happened. We don't know that.

Btw exactly how are his mother and his children bennefitting from this financially? As far as I know they are using Michael's money to get by so how is that against the law?[/quote]
Hmmm-I just wish I had that amount to live on! If this is not benefitting then I do not know what is, this is not just money to "get by on". This is an income which has come about after the "death" of Michael, in fact they will be set up for life;LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Michael Jackson's mother and his three children receive an allowance totaling more than $86,000 a month, according to court documents released Thursday.

 
Michael Jackson's estate provides $86,000 a month for Katherine Jackson and her grandchildren.

 1 of 3  The money given them by the Michael Jackson estate is in addition to the maintenance of the home -- which is owned by the estate -- in Encino, California, where Katherine Jackson lives with her grandchildren, the papers said.

The Los Angeles County judge overseeing the probate of Jackson's will ordered that the petitions for their monthly allowance be made public -- although with some details removed. Those papers were released Thursday.

Katherine Jackson was granted custody of her son's three children soon after Jackson's June 25 death. She and the children were named beneficiaries, along with unnamed charities, in Jackson's 2002 will.

Control of the estate's assets, however, was given to lawyer John Branca and John McClain, a former music industry executive. Jackson named them as trustees in his will.

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The petitions filed by Branca and McClain in July, and later approved by Judge Mitchell Beckloff, outlined $26,804 in monthly expenses for Katherine Jackson.

The largest amount from that, $4,722, pays for an assistant for her. Another $3,500 each month is budgeted for clothing for Katherine Jackson, who is 79 years old. She's also given $2,000 each for a housekeeper and driver. She has a $1,500 entertainment allowance each month, the documents said.

The details of the children's budget are mostly blacked out at their lawyer's request. Margaret Lodise told the judge there was concern someone could use the financial information to pose as one of the children online. She told CNN the family was aware of people posing as Jackson children with Twitter accounts.

The documents did reveal the three children get a combined $60,000 a month from their father's estate. They pay $14,600 a month for salaries and payroll taxes for people who take care of them, according to the petition.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 07:21:34 PM
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Im going back to the usa to straighten out my life too in spring so spring's gonna be a big upheaval for me. It would be so wierd if we were tha in tuned with eachother. That would be nuts. But ever since I saw Stevie Wonder cry and one hoax site shut down I feel very doubtful.
that was the one thing that got to me seeing Stevie cry he was realy upset it was not because he had messed the words up but then I thought he was upset because Michael could not come back to the stage like that again  I feel it was all done for his safty and the childrens.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 11:08:22 PM
All I have to say is that he will breathe in his own time.  It's all for love, l.o.v.e. love.  As to the possibility of there being major financial fraud going on if Michael faked his death..all I can say is that he has really, really good lawyers and I am sure that if he did fake his death, and I believe he did, then he has thought this through very carefully and knows everything there is to know about the law when it comes to death hoaxes.

 I also believe he made a very good move.  My opinion only..but I think he looked way too thin in the movie.  I can't see him wanting to do 50 shows.  I can easily see him thinking that he couldn't possibly do 50 shows.  He plainly wasn't in top condition. I saw the movie four times and he stole my heart over and over and over again.  I thought he was amazing...mesmerizing...and he came across as an incredibly beautiful, loving, kind, and generous soul.  I don't see him as a beaten, destroyed and completely done-for person. I see him as a spectacular survivor. I do, however, think he was very, very thin.  So I think he made a good move faking his death.  Now he can get better and contemplate his next move. I personally don't think it's a witness protection thing....although of course I could be wrong.  I am content not to know for sure right now...This is all so obviously orchestrated and there is so much intentional humor involved in various aspects of the hoax that I find it hard to believe that his intention is just to go away and never return.  If he doesn't come back, I believe he will at least continue to to keep us on our toes with crazy incongruities for as long as he lives.

To all the general negativity and pessimism swirling around here and everywhere else from time to time, all I can say is "so what, who cares." I am sticking with l.o.v.e. love. I think Michael's reputation has been restored already.  I haven't heard one negative word about him in months.  Not in the media, not anywhere.  (Except on the internet where people can anonymously hate just for the hell of it.) To the contrary, I see a lot of love, compassion, admiration, appreciation and respect for him.  So I wouldn't be so quick to assume that the name calling would start again. I can't imagine anyone in the mainstream media being that hateful after all we have been through collectively over the last 5 months.  I know I could be criticized for being naive, but I think a lot of people who previously condemned him are dealing with some heavy guilt and remorse. So anyway, I don't focus on the negativity.  I see the best in people wherever I can.  My imagination is running the show for me right now...and I can imagine Michael Jackson doing whatever the hell he wants to do.  He is wildly, supernaturally intelligent.  He is infinitely creative.  He has a heart of purest gold.  And he has some very smart people on the payroll.  Michael Jackson can find a way to do whatever he puts his mind to, whatever anyone has to say about it.  

Our opinions and conclusions can take us all over the place..but the bottom line is that Michael is doing what he is doing and we don't know what that is.  So I am focusing on the love.  I am just letting it simmer for a while.  Letting it bathe in the moonlight.  My life has changed since June 25th.  I have gone through a major psychological shift. A spiritual awakening possibly.  I feel the love.  I feel the hope.  And I feel that no matter what happens on this seemingly god-forsaken earth, love will endure forever.  Michael made that happen for me.  So thank you Michael.  I love you so much.  Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all that you have given me and all that you continue to give, every minute of every day.  Let it sizzle Michael.  Let it burn.  Go for infinity.  Anything you need, I'm there.  I'm all over it.  8-)
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 06, 2009, 12:41:08 AM
Nellyka7 and Jade Jackson, I agree 100%. You said it all so beautifully. My life has also been changed since June 25, and I will never give up on his return, because he, himself has stated it so many times, so many ways, and yes with much humor. He's not just fading away forever, though it sounds so logical, it's simply not what he has revealed to us.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 06, 2009, 05:00:12 AM
Jade, thank you for your post!!! These are exactly my thoughts!  :P  ;) Im letting it simmer for the sake of L.O.V.E.
The only part i cant agree with is the media, I think they'll be far from mild and understanding if and when Michael returns  :evil:

Love you, Michael, forever! Thank God for letting me feel and love you and appreciate you... I feel blessed
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 06, 2009, 12:12:33 PM
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If he is coming back I swear to God Im gonna tattoo his initials on myself! And I dont have any tats hehe :}

~K~

I already did  ;)
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 06, 2009, 12:48:46 PM
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I agree. We do not know the reason for what happened on June 25th. If his disappearance is all about publicity and money, yes the media will definitely crucify him. However if what happened is for a deeper reason, which I truly believe, then hopefully the media will leave him alone.

Iwantyouback, you got my point: if it came out that what happened was for a deeper reason, media would have to report it and not necessarilly crucify him.

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Michael already has been crucified.
Michael has not broken any laws in the United States in the process of this hoax. I wish people would stop perpetuating that misinformation.

Very well said, bec!

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People who insist that Michael won't/can't come back are jumping the gun. Why? Because they offer this, that, or the other reason for why a comeback is impossible or unlikely without even knowing exactly why Michael's death was faked in the first place ***AND*** without knowing if Michael was even the person responsible for his death being faked.

Hi, Lorrie! I've thought about that too. If it's really  a hoax, maybe it was not even his idea... good point!
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 07, 2009, 04:47:00 PM
Well i think it`s important to trust Michael on this, he knows what he is doing. If he chooses to come back at christmas or easter it dosn`t mean that he think he is God. He have told us more than once that he do not think he is God, but he like to live his life like God wants him to. I think the media would probably crucify him, but they will do that regardless of what date he chooses. It`s Michael Jackson for god sake, they always try to take him down whenever they can ( i hope they want this time but.......?)

I do not believe Michael did hoax his death for fun or for his own benefit ( i dont think he was broke), i think he has a very good reason for it. It dosn`t really matter if we think it`s a good reason or not for Michael, it`s not up to us to decide that. We are intitle to have our own opinion of course dont get me wrong, but we must try to accept the real reason when we get it. And that could be a reson that we do not like). I believe in him, and he will probably have a good explanation for this when he comes back ;)

If he did this to get away from the spotlight for a while, i will accept that as a good reason because he has suffered a lot in his life. If he did it because of health reason, that will be understandable too of course. Maybe he did it to make people lisson to his message about healing the world. We needed to wake up to see what we are doing to our own planet. My point is, i don`t believe he would do this if he did not think it was important. I think this was his last way out.

As you probably noticed, i really believe he will come back, but i do not know when that will be. There are so many dates to concider (Dec. 25th, January 7th, January 18, easter, spring, June 25th etc). I can not imagine that he will stay in hiding for the rest of his life, that would be very difficult. That will disable him from living the life he always wanted with his children. He would never be able to do things with them in public. He could be in disguise, yes........... but that would be difficult in the long run i think. The media will probably start asking questions about who this woman/man are with his children. :?

Michael is a good man, and he will do what`s best for him and his children and that`s really important right now.
Regardless of what he may do, there will always be people out there that will criticize him. It`s impossible to make the whole world happy and satisfied. Sadly it`s a habit for Michael to be criticized and lied about in the media, so that will not exactly shock him if that happens again. The media would just look stupid, and it would be a way to get back on them too :) . Michael shared so much of his love with us, and now it`s time for us to give it back to him. We just need to be there for him, support him and show him our love and he will come back when he is ready, i really feel in my heart that he is alive :)

This post was a little off topic, and i`m sorry for that. I got carried away ;)
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 07, 2009, 07:27:36 PM
all you have said makes sense. I do not know U.S. law but if anyone has claimed or claim any insurance does not think there's crime. about 50 gigs I think that A & G knew what was happening, if they have not submitted any application to any insurer.
Speaking of A & G recall that Michael spent with honors all medical tests, I guess that includes blood and urine analysis, and any physical exam, nobody saw anything wrong with his body?
continue, I think the reason is more than important and valid to do this and let him continue with this later if Michael comes the stupid press for what they have said only the information of TMZ, in principle ... perhaps say that the family knew nothing, and none saw the body, only La Toya and she is a police officer, then ... nothing, nobody knows anything supposedly ... and Michael gives his explanation, the means they suck stockings to sell more (as always) will do some gigs, or not ... who knows? and everyone happy ... TT has a history a little strange, but to carry this forward I think Michael needs someone like TT ...
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 07, 2009, 08:27:03 PM
To a great degree, searching for a reveal date is like guessing the contents of a wrapped present. The box can be large like a television yet not have one inside. It could  contain a set of smaller boxes that ultimatly reveal a tiny box containing a diamond ring.

We  are looking for predicatable behavior from a man who is anything but predictable. Our reveal dates and BAMS may make sense to us but would they make sense to him? I have no answer for that question either.

I am keeping a close eye on the reality tv show...the Jack5ons. There is a great deal of mystery surrounding that program. That mystery could be to boost ratings and guarantee a large viewership. Jermaine spoke about a surprise ending and that something will be revealed regarding a reunion tour. Ya cannot have a real reunion if all parties are not present, now can you? He tells us that the revelation will take place at the end of the 6 part show. That means that the so-called surprise ending will take place on January 24th. If we are to believe Jermaine then that might be a reveal date to consider. Unless Jermaine is just luring us to watch the show for the sake of seeing them revive their career...lol We are talking about Jermaine so that is possible too.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 07, 2009, 08:34:50 PM
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To a great degree, searching for a reveal date is like guessing the contents of a wrapped present. The box can be large like a television yet not have one inside. It could  contain a set of smaller boxes that ultimatly reveal a tiny box containing a diamond ring.

We  are looking for predicatable behavior from a man who is anything but predictable. Our reveal dates and BAMS may make sense to us but would they make sense to him? I have no answer for that question either.

I am keeping a close eye on the reality tv show...the Jack5ons. There is a great deal of mystery surrounding that program. That mystery could be to boost ratings and guarantee a large viewership. Jermaine spoke about a surprise ending and that something will be revealed regarding a reunion tour. Ya cannot have a real reunion if all parties are not present, now can you? He tells us that the revelation will take place at the end of the 6 part show. That means that the so-called surprise ending will take place on January 24th. If we are to believe Jermaine then that might be a reveal date to consider. Unless Jermaine is just luring us to watch the show for the sake of seeing them revive their career...lol We are talking about Jermaine so that is possible too.

surprise ending? regarding what, exactly? and for some reason i feel like Michael wants us to know when he plans on coming back. So we are supportive of him when he is ready to make the big decision and reveal himself.
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 07, 2009, 09:12:51 PM
That is the mystery surrounding the show. Jermaine tells fans to watch the full run of episodes and that something will be revealed at the end and  on the final show. Now admittedly this could be a big basket of nothing. Or it could be the setup for something else. We'll just have to watch and see for ourselves.

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surprise ending? regarding what, exactly?[/quote]
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Re: Possible MJ Reveal Date!

  • on: December 07, 2009, 09:45:43 PM
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I agree. We do not know the reason for what happened on June 25th. If his disappearance is all about publicity and money, yes the media will definitely crucify him. However if what happened is for a deeper reason, which I truly believe, then hopefully the media will leave him alone.

Iwantyouback, you got my point: if it came out that what happened was for a deeper reason, media would have to report it and not necessarilly crucify him.

Quote from: "bec"
Michael already has been crucified.
Michael has not broken any laws in the United States in the process of this hoax. I wish people would stop perpetuating that misinformation.

Very well said, bec!

Quote from: "Lorrie"
People who insist that Michael won't/can't come back are jumping the gun. Why? Because they offer this, that, or the other reason for why a comeback is impossible or unlikely without even knowing exactly why Michael's death was faked in the first place ***AND*** without knowing if Michael was even the person responsible for his death being faked.

Hi, Lorrie! I've thought about that too. If it's really  a hoax, maybe it was not even his idea... good point!


I dont know anymore :?
I have one question.
If he is not planning to come back..Why all the clue's?
One did it special for me..Muray in court.. the close up from the trasch can..the money.
Why this?? in that case what is the point in this ?
Greetings Mattie
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