TIAI Update #4a: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof Hoax, Not Murder

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For those losing hope or getting tired, Update #4 here should give you a huge jolt!  Today is exactly half of a year since 9-9-09.  This update will go into great detail about the 7 steps in the timing of the hoax: 911 call (12:21), death (2:26), memorial (7-7), burial (9-3), resurrection (9-9-09), return (“piece by piece”, now in progress), and finally the bam!  Previously, TIAI has focused on the why’s of the hoax, and a little on the timing {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/search.php?author_id=1440&sr=posts}; now, TIAI is focusing on the when’s of the hoax, and a little on the how’s.

Whether or not you have read any of the previous TIAI posts, I highly recommend that you read this one—it will surely kill the murder theory (as well as any MJ literal death theory).  In fact, if there is ever any TIAI post that you need to read: This Is It!!!

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4-1. Outline for TIAI Update #4

Note: because this update is very long, it is broken into four parts.

TIAI Update #4a: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder
4-1. Outline for TIAI Update #4
4-2. Introduction for Update #4
4-3. TIAI Redirections Since Update #3
4-4. Brief Review: 4 Major Reasons MJ Is Alive
4-5. A Couple of Recent Major Events
4-6. Is TMZ Just Playing Games?

TIAI Update #4b: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder
4-7. The Red Shirt & “777”
4-8. Numbers 4 Evil & Numbers 4 Good
4-9. Why Does 7 Represent Perfection?
4-10. Rounding: Down, Nearest Whole, and Up
4-11. 77 & 7 Days From the “Death”, & “Burial” to the “Resurrection”
4-12. Number 9 Represents Regeneration (Resurrection)
4-13. MJ “1998” Autographs
4-14. The Autograph on “Dangerous”
4-15. MJ “Resurrection” Before “Return”
4-16. Autopsy Report “9-9-09, Date Finalized”
4-17. “This Is It” Movie Poster on 9-9-09
4-18. Jermaine and La Toya Supported 9-9-09
4-19. Stock Market Bottom on 3-6: 666!
4-20 The Idiot-Maker Rally Started on 3-9
4-21. 777 + 999 = 1776; Greatest Demonstration for Freedom

TIAI Update #4c: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder
4-22. 777 + 333 + 111 = 1221; 777 + 1221 = 1998
4-23. The 911 Call Was at 12:21
4-24. Was the “Death” Time (2:26) Also Planned?
4-25. The End of the World Is Good News!
4-26. Can a False Alarm Eliminate a Real Danger?
4-27. Did MJ Ever Think of a Thriller Sequel?
4-28. MJ Certainly Had Something Big Planned
4-29. Hoax Timing, the Bigger Picture
4-30. Coincidence: Odds of 7 Versus 777
4-31. Any Chance That This Was Just Chance?

TIAI Update #4d: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder
4-32. Would a “Death Hoax” Murder Plot Convince the Family???
4-33. Does the NWO Promote the End of the World?
4-34. Is TIAI Part of a Murder Conspiracy?
4-35. TIAI Appeal to TINI Followers
4-36. Hoax Objections Answered
4-37. Hints on the “How’s” of the Hoax
4-38. Only a Few Would Need to Be “In On It”
4-39. Piece by Piece Return, Versus Bamsday
4-40. High Probability of MJ “Return” in January 2010
4-41. Bam: Not If, But When
4-42. Guilty Until Acquitted, Still Guilty After Acquitted
4-43. For Those Losing Faith: the Trial Is Not Over Yet
4-44. Do You Still Need Even More Evidence???????-??

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4-2. Introduction for Update #4

This update is about 777, 9-9-09, and the highly planned timing of the hoax.  This is the same subject, with much more detail, that I posted on the original MJHD with the username STUDY (posted on 9-7-09).  That was my very first post; and many wondered where I came from all of a sudden, where I got the information from, and whether I was MJ himself—or at least someone very close to MJ.

Now, half of a year later, I am going to give far more information about the timing of the hoax—including the timing of the autopsy report, finalized on 9-9-09; this report came out one day after my Update #3  {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=0&t=5024&p=78302}, which stated clearly that my next update (#4) would be about 9-9-09.

For the sake of new hoax believers, or non-hoax believers (murder theory advocates, etc): I designed this update so that you can follow most everything, without reading any of the previous TIAI posts.  Therefore, a few things are repeated here that were already covered in my previous posts.

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4-3. TIAI Redirections Since Update #3

The first set of TIAI redirects were labelled R1 through R49 {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/search.php?author_id=1440&sr=posts}.  However, this second set of redirects (all between Update #3 & #4) will be labelled based on the date of the redirection; and then the numbers {in braces} indicate what section in this update is on the same subject as that redirection.  Also, remember that none of the information was created by me; TIAI only pointed to information that is already out there in cyberspace.

2-8 {4-1} Elsa; figured out 9-9-09 update on March 9.
{http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=5024&start=25#p79781}

2-9 {4-16} ForstAMoon; noticed 9-9-09 on the coroner’s report.
{http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=5024&start=50#p81606}

2-10 {4-16} Last page of autopsy report, including 9-9-09.
{http://http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0208101jackson23.html}

2-11 {4-16} LA Coroner info, compare seal with MJ report, etc.
{http://http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/info_eng.pdf}

2-12 {4-16} LA Coroner request form, ask about problems in MJ report.
{http://http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/inqfrm.cfm}

2-13 {4-16} TMZ; MJ “in great shape” (Hulk).
{http://http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/mjs-trainer-he-could-still-walk-the-walk/}

2-14 {4-41} Happy Valentines Day!
{http://http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/9/l_5b19bf8eef9c4320b031d7732d1635ef.gif}

2-15 {4-6} tklein1014; about TMZ article: “its all a hoax” (MJ & Murray).
{http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=5565#p87728}

2-16 {4-42} MJalive999; video, Murray Condemned Without Trial!
{http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgCMNCGskWo}

2-17 {4-42} CNN; used “unnamed source” against Murray.
{http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAWwnjaMxpg}

2-18 {4-42} Mo; only statement from Murray himself was the YouTube video.
{http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=5786#p91572}

2-19 {4-42} 2 Thessalonians 2:11; media & public believe a lie.
{http://http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20thes%202:11&version=KJV}

2-20 {4-41} ImmabeLIEver05; LOVE is Michael’s message.
{http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhAxTYemoQM}

2-21 {4-41} karmaknowstruth; personal testimony of living the LOVE.
{http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=5565&start=100#p89984}

2-22 {4-7} ILikeTrains; MJ red shirt with “777” on it.
{http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=27&start=125#p2255}

2-23 {4-7} Very first TII picture, same red shirt.
{http://http://cm1.theinsider.com/thumbnail/400/594/cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/535/23/Vz_3a4jyvmbX0CLc5pUMmqGZAMpj8zaR4o.jpg}

2-24 {4-7} First TII video clip (TDRCAU), same red shirt.
{http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qE22UOlQts}

2-25 {4-7} TII movie poster, same red shirt everywhere.
{http://http://www.mjjcn.com/THISISIT.jpg}

2-26 {4-23 & 4-24} 911 call at 12:21; “death” at 2:26.
{http://http://www.nowpublic.com/world/michael-jackson-dies-age-50-cardiac-arrest-2-26-pm-pdt}

2-27 {4-23} Em; 911 call same as end of Mayan calendar (12:21).
{http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6033#p96269}

2-28 {4-25} Revelation 21:1,4; end of the world is good news.
{http://http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=revelation%2021:1,4&version=KJV}

3-1 {4-11} MTV; burial delayed again (to 9-3), no reason given.
{http://http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619227/20090821/jackson_michael.jhtml}

3-2 {4-21 & 4-39} Light Man introduction.
{http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GooyC24NOdY}

3-3 {4-14} MJ autograph code on “Dangerous”.
{http://http://www.lipstickalley.com/5032753-post16245.html}

3-4 {4-21} Fireworks; red, white, and blues; July 4.
{http://http://www.friendsforourriverfront.org/uploaded_images/fireworks9-778829.jpg}

3-5 {4-20} Anniversary of O2 conference, similarities with “V for Vendetta”.
{http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thChiBDudSs}

3-6 {4-19} CNNMoney; stock market bottom on 3-6: 666!
{http://http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/04/markets/thebuzz/index.htm}

3-7 {4-30} cgfm011; TMZ video on MJ coincidence with 7’s.
{http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TCDRz1cGKQ}

3-8 {4-20} The idiot-maker rally started on 3-9.
{http://http://www.philstockworld.com/2010/01/08/the-idiot-maker-rally-continues/}

3-9 {4-1} Back to 9-9-09 update on 3-9 (and Coroner’s Report).
{http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=5024&start=50#p81606}

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4-4. Brief Review: 4 Major Reasons MJ Is Alive

Before getting into the meat of this update—for the sake of any hoax newbie’s (or even for seasoned hoaxers who need a reminder)—here are four major reasons to believe that MJ faked his death: #1 how the family has re-acted; #2 the Liberian Girl pictures at the memorial, and later the burial; #3 MJ’s remake of the Gilda movie, with a faked death, in This Is It (TII); #4 the lack of any MJ RIP in the TII cinema version, the TII DVD version, the 1-31-2010 Grammys, and TMZ (for seven months).

Why did the Jackson children look bored at the memorial?  Where was the grief?  Where were the tears, running down the faces of any of the Jacksons?  Oh yes, they were all wearing sunglasses (indoors), so we could not see their grief and tears—or perhaps, was it so that we would not see the lack of grief and tears?

The memorial, and the funeral/burial two months later, had pictures from Liberian Girl; in fact, at the burial, the only two pictures up front were both Liberian Girl pictures.  In case anyone doesn’t know, Liberian Girl is the video where MJ directed from behind the scenes; and nobody could see him, until the end.  Here is the Liberian Girl video {http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3V-7DEAgdc}, and notice what MJ is wearing at the end; for funeral/burial program cover {http://http://new.etonline.com/documents/mjackson_funeral_program_et_090409.pdf}.  Here is the Liberian Girl photo {http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberian_Girl; and here is the main funeral/burial photo {http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4f0Cm0Qehg at 1:09}.

MJ was a fan of old movies, and he was obviously well aware of Gilda—since he did a short remake of it for Smooth Criminal in TII {http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD_bVPEPAUo; http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilda}.  Since MJ was well aware of this movie: no doubt he knew that one of the main characters, Ballin Mundson, was played by George Macready {http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Macready}—an actor who had the same birthday as MJ!  And to really top it all off: in the original Gilda movie, this same man “faked his death”!  Surely that did not slip the attention of MJ!  And surely, this is one of the main reasons he chose to remake this film.

Finally, after MJ supposedly died on June 25, we have had four major cases of dementia: the Grammys (MJ not listed in the musicians who had died since the previous year); TII cinema movie (no mention of MJ death or RIP); TII DVD, with additional material on it (and still no direct mention of 1958-2009, or RIP); and TMZ forgot MJ on their celebrity RIP page for seven months, until hoax believers reminded them about it {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=4986}.

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4-5. A Couple of Recent Major Events

Two fairly significant events happened last month, both about the same time.  Jackson attorney Brian Oxman came out and stated that there is a is 99.9% chance the ambulance photo is fake {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=5820; http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbGrrNyMpZY}.  Remember, this is the one and only “official” picture of MJ we have ever seen; and now we learn that it was photo-shopped.  Actually, we knew it all along; but at least someone has finally stepped up to the plate and admitted it.

True, this does not prove that MJ is alive; the photo could’ve been faked for several reasons.  However, it is quite significant that the ambulance photo was one of the very first things that hoax believers recognized was fishy.  And now, more than half of a year later, we are hearing through a respected source that our first conclusion was correct!  Perhaps, just maybe, we might also be right in some of our other conclusions.

Actually there was another belief, early in the hoax—that MJ went to LAX, hopped on a private jet, and flew out of town on June 25, 2009.  Well, Jermaine has been nice enough to confirm this hoax belief also; Jermaine said: “He was very, very healthy but Michael was not with us, way before he arrived to the airport. ... I mean way before he arrived to the hospital.” {http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd0SoaOe-cs; http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5836}

Was this an intentional goof (big hint)?  If so, we have an MJ death hoax!  Or was it a Freudian slip?  If so, we still have a hoax!  Notice that shortly before saying “airport”, he paused a bit; so there was ample time for him to collect his thoughts, and get the wording right.  Also, what is the likelihood that Jermaine, a professional performer for the Jackson 5, would be so sloppy as to make such a goof accidentally?

Furthermore, how could you mix up an airport with a hospital—they are not similar: either in meaning, or in pronunciation.  And if it was just a random goof, having nothing to do with the hospital or the hoax: then why the word “airport”?  It would be just as likely to goof up and say the “golf course”, or the “barber shop”, or the “mall”, or “Pizza Hut”, or “Mount Everest”, or anything whatsoever OTHER than the AIRPORT!!!

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4-6. Is TMZ Just Playing Games?

TMZ has also had some very interesting things recently, including putting the http://http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net website right on the TMZ article!  They took it down later, but you can still see a screen shot of it in this thread {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=6666&start=100#p107875; see also http://http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/04/debbie-rowe-visits-michael-jacksons-grave-mausoleum/}.

TMZ had another article recently, mentioning both Conrad Murray and Michael Jackson; and among other interesting things, they had the following phrase: “it’s all a hoax”!  But there would be no reason for the word “all”, unless they were subtly referring to much more than just the Twitter account.  {http://http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/12/dr-conrad-murray-impostor-exposed; and see this thread http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=5565#p87728}

In a different article about Conrad Murray, TMZ said: “Long before he may or may not have been responsible for the death of Michael Jackson, Dr. Conrad Murray was just another guy enjoying Carnival in Trinidad.” {http://http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/14/dr-conrad-murray-carnival-michael-jackson-photos-picture}  Whether or not TMZ is playing: they are thousands of miles ahead of the public and the media who are condemning Murray before the trial; at least TMZ is admitting that Murray may not be guilty (innocent until proven guilty).

Now compare that last “or may not” article with this one, from about one week earlier: “Murray showed up at Forest Lawn Memorial Park on Wednesday afternoon to visit the tomb of the man he may or may not have accidentally killed.” {http://http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/07/conrad-murray-michael-jackson-tomb-forest-lawn-photos; see also TIAI Update #3, http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=0&t=5024&p=78302}.

Some believe that TMZ is giving valuable clues about the hoax, but others believe that TMZ is just playing around with hoax believers; here is a good thread on that subject. {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6711}

If TMZ is just goofing off, though, then why have they been first to report many things related to the Jacksons?  Do you think that the video from the Murray court was all made up by TMZ, just to laugh at a few thousand hoax believers?  And was TMZ merely playing games when they said that the FBI would release 333 pages of MJ files, or did the files actually get released?  Was TMZ just playing games when they said the investigation was complete in early January, or did things actually move forward a few weeks later?

In fact, let’s go back to June 25, 2009.  Was TMZ just playing games, when they were the first to announce that Michael Jackson had died?  Or did the rest of the media also verify the death soon after?  So TMZ was not just playing around on June 25: because when they said MJ died, he really died—wait a minute, woops, maybe TMZ was playing around on June 25!  Okay, so I guess it’s true: maybe TMZ does goof off a little bit now and then.



TIAI Update #4b is next.  {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=7064}
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the link to update 4b links to 4a  :(  great reading tho
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thank you ts... *_*
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OMG! Where's the rest?! I'm so anxiousssssssssss!  :shock:  :shock: *runs in circles*

It's 05:33 a.m here in Brazil. I'm waiting for this update till yesterday! Oh boy, I didn't mean to be rude, I'm just soooo anxious, like many others here that think things are moving a little fast and we must be ready all the time for Mike's message. Btw, thank you so much, TS, for always explaining things in a so didactical and clear way! I'm following TIAI from the very begining but it's very important to draw the lines for the newbies.

Thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks! And We are waiting for the rest!  :D
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oh man i can't wait for the rest plz hurry however take as long as you need to make it perfect, i thank that everyone can wait a lilltel longer
L.O.V.E
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Thanks TS. I have been waiting for your update.

But I can't find parts b,c and d........don't leave us hanging...please.....

"Please Sir, can I have some more?"

 :D  :D  :D

PS - wanted to add....WOW. The work you put into these posts is incredible. Can you help me finish writing my PhD please? LOL....
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Thanks again TS, I can't wait for the rest and I can't stop smiling.  :D   Don't stop till you get enough!
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So the actor playing Ballin in Gilda is born on August 29!!! That's even more interesting than I thought, thank you TS
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Thank you for your work on TIAI, it's very interesting to read  :D
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Hey TS,
nice to see you, I was waiting for you, thanks for being punctual.
Thank you so much for all you do.
You are great !!!
L.O.V.E.
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Dear TS
 Hi and how are You? thanks very much for Your update and all the work You do !!! WOW  thanks for Your explanations and redirects. I am not always sure when to check in for new ones as being like way down here in New Zealand our time is so much different a different day sometimes and our date we write back to front so on here this site I have to make sure I am reading You  carefully to understand  Your message, but that is nothing really don't even know why I said it , but much appreciation and love for Your great dedication and patience!!
lots of love and hgus
Michelle
xoxox ;)
take care and all my L.O.V.E
 Michelle
xoxoxo
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Oh, God....
FINALLY!
I was nearly going insane... I was going to buy a padded cell for myself today... but I guess I'll postpone it
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thanks TS for the  update
I do not write much in this forum, because of the language that I do not know  :oops:  
(I wrote a few times) but I read with google   ;)  

with L.O.V.E. from Italy    :P
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OMG! Where's the rest?! I'm so anxiousssssssssss!  :shock:  :shock: *runs in circles*

Thank you TS <3
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Thank you so much,TS :P
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Thanks dear TS; Can't wait for the next update ;)
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Thanks TS for news. I confess that my anxiety over the subject  made me so confused. I'm depressive and anxious with so much informations, and very worried about Michael(if he is really well) always "looking for" any news & clues that give me PEACE! I am a convinced BELIEVER, but time goes fast and scares ...
Well, I BELIEVE "THE BEST IS YET TO COME..." I'm still believing & waiting for....
All for L.O.V.E.!! LOVE FOR MY IDOL, MAN & GENIUS!

LOVE FOR MY MICHAEL JACKSON'S BELIEVERS TEAM! We're a family! Take Care!



Pls TS HELP ME! Yesterday 03/22/2010 anyone published these copies above. I think this is a "supposed" letter(2 pages) or lyrics that was handwritten by Michael where we can see T.S. at title or headline.
I understood the text so very sad and hurt, would have some connection with you or your name? It would have been written for you? I need to understand....
Pls reply if possible so I'm worried with the sadness of these words...
I wish that MICHAEL is well, safe and happy wherever he is now!!! Remembering: ASK WHY NOT WHEN!
Thank you once more TS! L.O.V.E.
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"Before you judge me, try hard to LOVE me."
"I am happy to be alive!I am happy to be who I am!

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"Beat me.Hate me.You can never break me, will me,thrill me!You can never kill me!"
"They ain\'t seem nothing yet & the best is yet to come!"
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TS , thank you.
This summary was very needed 'cause some of us tend to forget things.
We just need to go one step forward.

Hmmmm I still wonder ... is it piece by piece by piece or BAM ??

Whatever you choose Mike , whenever you choose it , I' LL BE THERE !
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Thanks sooooo much, TS !!!!

Now I can't wait for #update b !!!
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Thank you TS! :)

I notice just one thing... the number 4 (4th update, 4 sections, it ends with 4-44)
Has it anything to do with "snap (5 times) and then BAM!"?  :?:

L.O.V.E.
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Thank you TS for your new explanation and recap in one.  This for sure will give those who were about ready to give up a boost.  I'm looking forward to your next update!
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Thanks! and I can't wait for the part B :)
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TS....

Look Dude, frankly speaking this numbers game isnt really working for me anymore.  :x Sorry. You used the same excuse to proclaim that MJ could return in January......But That didnt happen. I need more logical stuff to be convinced this time around. I am not falling for the numbers game again.......I did that before....The only thing it got me was a whole lotta misery.


Plus are you playing Mr.Mysterious because you really know something about the hoax that we dont? Or is it another person person tryng to force a conclusion out of a few numbers that could mean anything?....

On one hand, I do keep track of rcent events and I do know about the Jermaine slip-ups on the Australian radio show and on the german channel RTL.....And I do take these as positive signs for the hoax. But nothing more than that.......

The no.7 had a lotta rlevance in Mj's life.....SO WHAT? Why is it so relevant to the hoax that we are supposed to spend our whole lives trying to debunk everything that has a 7 on it? I saw 7 sparrows in the morning.......SO? Did MJ send those sparrows to my place?

If everything would have to be a blatant 7 then why didnt the actual hoax start in July--the 7th month?.....Would've been perfect wouldnt it? Now you would say that 25th June , so 2+5 makes 7...To that I would say....What about June itself? Isnt that the 6th month and not the 7th?


We should be looking out for the REAL clues,,,like the Jermaine slip-ups and not try to prove taht the sun rises from the west....why? Just because some numbers say taht could happen......So everybody starts to believe that the SUN RISING FROM THE EAST IS ALSO A HOAX....THAT IT ACTUALLY RISES FROM THE WEST. :roll:

If Michael wanted us to know about the hoax he would place clue that would be more transparent.....Like PAINS, Like the Larry King and Jermaine slip-ups, Like the DVD disclaimers, Like the KO statements, Like the Dancers tweets......Because he knows that everyones not an Einstein and he wouldnt have wanted anonymous einsteins to play with numbers either just because those numbers somehow fall into a particular pattern.

What I see here is a person who is trying to desperately save face by trying to form a realtion between numbers,trying to make a clue out of every little thing, because his/her logic didnt REALLY work out for so many times before.....A sorry state of affairs indeed. :roll:
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Quote from: "Doctor Death"
TS....

Look Dude, frankly speaking this numbers game isnt really working for me anymore.  :x Sorry. You used the same excuse to proclaim that MJ could return in January......But That didnt happen. I need more logical stuff to be convinced this time around. I am not falling for the numbers game again.......I did that before....The only thing it got me was a whole lotta misery.


Plus are you playing Mr.Mysterious because you really know something about the hoax that we dont? Or is it another person person tryng to force a conclusion out of a few numbers that could mean anything?....

On one hand, I do keep track of rcent events and I do know about the Jermaine slip-ups on the Australian radio show and on the german channel RTL.....And I do take these as positive signs for the hoax. But nothing more than that.......

The no.7 had a lotta rlevance in Mj's life.....SO WHAT? Why is it so relevant to the hoax that we are supposed to spend our whole lives trying to debunk everything that has a 7 on it? I saw 7 sparrows in the morning.......SO? Did MJ send those sparrows to my place?

If everything would have to be a blatant 7 then why didnt the actual hoax start in July--the 7th month?.....Would've been perfect wouldnt it? Now you would say that 25th June , so 2+5 makes 7...To that I would say....What about June itself? Isnt that the 6th month and not the 7th?


We should be looking out for the REAL clues,,,like the Jermaine slip-ups and not try to prove taht the sun rises from the west....why? Just because some numbers say taht could happen......So everybody starts to believe that the SUN RISING FROM THE EAST IS ALSO A HOAX....THAT IT ACTUALLY RISES FROM THE WEST. :roll:

If Michael wanted us to know about the hoax he would place clue that would be more transparent.....Like PAINS, Like the Larry King and Jermaine slip-ups, Like the DVD disclaimers, Like the KO statements, Like the Dancers tweets......Because he knows that everyones not an Einstein and he wouldnt have wanted anonymous einsteins to play with numbers either just because those numbers somehow fall into a particular pattern.

What I see here is a person who is trying to desperately save face by trying to form a realtion between numbers,trying to make a clue out of every little thing, because his/her logic didnt REALLY work out for so many times before.....A sorry state of affairs indeed. :roll:

I LOVED reading your post,because you expressed the somewhat quiet frustration in me!! :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
I am in a bad mood since one hour and have no one to talk to. So sorry for letting it out here, but you got me really,really laughing. My kids were like:What are you watching??
It is a little bit crisis time right now, going to extremes. Hey doctor death, if we want to stick to the theme we`ll have to go through.The good side of TS post is that it cannot take long anymore. So, set a deadline for yourself and go! And don`t forget about all the other valuable "proofs" you mentioned. There MUST be a reason why you`re still here, so handle it!Maybe you could make up a list of reasons why YOU think he is still alive and on the way back? And add anything that comes from the outside world that makes sense to YOU? Anyway thanks for sharing your emotions! :P

I allways had my dificulties with the 25=7 thing, cause according to my knowledge in numerology you have to add the complete date to have  a 7 outcome.So, 25062009=24=6 But maybe I am wrong by that.And maybe MJ could not even influence the date of escapism, so at least he got the 25th.
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Chance is a widely used resource when we are unable to find a coherent explanation to situations that seem to lack it. The more we learn are less accidents. Certainly everything has an explanation, though not already know. Things happen for a reason ... nothing is by chance ended up ... if anything, is that something better will come.
TS Thanks for reminding all these "coincidences". 8-)

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Thank You TS, can't wait for the next 3 parts! I see it is very labor intensive to put this together. I appreciate all the hard work, and absolutely DO NOT think you are playing with us. Praying for you! God Bless.
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....almost 7 hrs since TS posted...patiently waiting for more 'nourishment'... :P
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Almost 7...so that COULD be a sign it cannot take long anymore... ;)

Thanks BTW to TS, for all the work being put in the process! My mood is a better one again..
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Nice timing. 03/10/2010 = 3+1+2+1=7
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Hi TS!
God! u've done a great job,man!  :D  thanks for gathering all redirections of TIAI in a one place. i'm working so i cannot always see the redirection.. but now i can check 'em all!  ;)
my jaw fell open when i was reading your msg :) all those "coincidences" made me think about some things again..
i beLIEve in all this 7's stuff.. it cannot be just a coincidence! there must be a deeper meaning in it!  :!:  such coincidences just don't exist!!
and i also beLIEve that TMZ s on the hoax!! they know a lot, and now they gradually are revealling the truth!  8-)
i just ache for the final of the Hoax!! oh God! those who still do not beLIEve must be fools or blind! open your eyes, dudes!!!  :D
LONG LIVE THE KING!!! :!:  :!:
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@ doctor death i agree with u. i think ts is playing minds games with people. if this person knows something then why not just say it. imo this is a person who knows how to use his/her words and give off the illusion of making people believe they know something when in reality they dont know anymore than what the rest of us know.
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@ doctor death i agree with u. i think ts is playing minds games with people. if this person knows something then why not just say it. imo this is a person who knows how to use his/her words and give off the illusion of making people believe they know something when in reality they dont know anymore than what the rest of us know.
WHAT GAMES????????? He is just trayin to show something is VERY MUCH wrong about this ''dead'' of King of pop!
He is not making things up!!!!! he is for example just traying to write about the fact that the Family DIDNTT CRY on the memorial!!!! I mean, so they are also playing games with us??? that is damn cruel I think!
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You forgot to mention Oscars. They mentioned MJ on the RIP list, but forgot Farah Fawcet intentionally to make us pay attention to him. Farah Fawcet was an actress and she's missing from the list, MJ isn't really an actor but he's on the list, when they forgot to put him on the Grammy RIP list, where he really belongs. It's for us to see he indeed is a great "actor". He's acting right now in the greatest movie of all time.
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@ doctor death i agree with u. i think ts is playing minds games with people. if this person knows something then why not just say it.

And what exactly would you have learned then, if TS starts spoon feeding?  Absolutely nothing.  

If you think TS is playing mind games, then you can just skip threads like these.
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Thankyou TS. The slow reveal instead of the bam hey? Thats happening now.  Piece by piece lightman full of video information is opening  to reveal  MJ. People in general are more aware that somethings going on and are willing to dicuss a hoax possibility here in Aus.  Love and peace to you and your family.
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Quote from: "bubaliciousjlb"
@ doctor death i agree with u. i think ts is playing minds games with people. if this person knows something then why not just say it. imo this is a person who knows how to use his/her words and give off the illusion of making people believe they know something when in reality they dont know anymore than what the rest of us know.

You're right. He could be playing mind games but isn't this whole adventure a mind game? It's making us view things differently with our thoughts and how we perceive things in the media and beyond? And why would someone "in the know" tell us everything? Wouldn't that ruin the adventure and perhaps, the whole possible point of this? To find the truth for ourselves. And I would think that if MJ's people are behind this website, he would know that it would be dangerous and not very smart to "spill the beans" before they were meant to be spilled. He could be doing us a really big favor or creating a big diversion. However, the information is really not that harmful. Some of it is enlightening to me. Either way, I find him intriguing and very intelligent so I've been reading and checking out the site. It doesn't hurt to keep an eye. I think it only hurts if you put 100% faith into anything involving this because everything is on shaky ground. That's just my opinion though. His timing is on point though. I will admit that.
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first of all for those who decided to respond to my post i wasnt actually talking you i was talking to doctor death. but since you have decided to respond i believe i have the right to express how i feel even if it does not agree with most and you really cant stop me from saying what i think. oh im sorry maybe you will ban me from the forum because i decided to speak on how i feel. i have said what i have to say and stand by it and there is no need to respond because i will not answer. im not here to argue with u people i am here for the love of michael.
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i still believe hes alive and i miss him hes an inspiration! you rock michael!
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During the RIP list on The Oscars they showed images from The Wiz, Thriller and Moonwalker, but The Wiz is important for the clues we have about it, right on the judge's table in the Conrad Murray arraignment. Why the f... he would decorate like this his table - two toys - an yelow taxi and a sunflower? For me this was the moment I realized we are on the right path to the truth and I moved from 99% to 100% MJ is still alive.
I propose that everybody here make a list of the recent events and clues which made them believe Mj is alive the most (with details). The new clues because the old ones everybody knows them. This way we can improve our lists together. Mine is:
1. The toys on the judge table. The sunflower and the taxi appeared in The Wiz at the end of a phase and the start of a new one. Means we are on the right path and nearer to the end of the hoax.
2. For me the movie Avatar holds a lot of clues. It is also connected with the Grammys and Earth Song tribute. I wrote about it many times on the net but nobody seems to see the same things as me and you know there are a lot of haters between us. So, if you want me to explain, please write me here.
3.  Some new movies hold a lot of clues, even the movies you don't imagine to have a connection like Valentine's Day. Here a guy named Jackson, a famous football player, admits the truth about his love life (he is gay - nothing to do with MJ of course) in front of all audience and publicists. A sports reporter, (Jamie Foxx) says something like this about him: "Mr Jackson will be remembered in history. He did everything for love." I felt these words were a little exagerated for the matter. As I saw the movie translated to Spanish I don't really know the exact words. Please correct me if you saw or have the posibility to see the movie. 2012, as you already know, has some clues also. In "Invictus" appears the words "This is it" in a very importanty moment of the movie. Soon I will see "Alice in Wonderland". I am very curious about the clues I will find in it.
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@Mo...Souza..and every prospective viewer of this thread that could diss me for nothing for the umpteenth time .....

I never asked for spoonfeeding......I, We, can all together access this forum and discuss clues and evidence...We do that everyday.....And will continue to do that till BAMSDAY arrives....

In this process of investigation, I have indeed developed a new and indepemdent perspective with respect to the various aspects of the hoax. I no longer digest what is dished out by the News Channels-----The self proclaimed flag bearers of truth and freedom......I no longer believe word of mouth...I never did previously....I believed in witnessing the thing myself to form an opinion....The Hoax has only strengthened my belief further and for that I am grateful to Michael Jackson....

I am angry at the fact that we are relying too much on numbers.....Holy Sh*t, Even I can add up a particular number any way I like and bring forward a 7 or a 9.........Look man, It could have relevance and  then again it couldnt.....Only MJ knows.

What I am trying to say is that why are we obsesing about things that dont make sense and will never make sense even if we devote eternity to squeeze sense outta them?....

Some people are like....I saw a 7 on a LOLLIPOP wrapper in the market yesterday....SO MJ MUST HAVE HAD THOSE LOLLIPOPS TAKEN THERE..... :roll:

We could instead concentrate on the innumerable obvious verbal blunders and gaping holes in the whole story. Thats my point.

And heres my original post that stirred up such a storm.....


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TS....

Look Dude, frankly speaking this numbers game isnt really working for me anymore.  :x  Sorry. You used the same excuse to proclaim that MJ could return in January......But That didnt happen. I need more logical stuff to be convinced this time around. I am not falling for the numbers game again.......I did that before....The only thing it got me was a whole lotta misery.


Plus are you playing Mr.Mysterious because you really know something about the hoax that we dont? Or is it another person person tryng to force a conclusion out of a few numbers that could mean anything?....

On one hand, I do keep track of rcent events and I do know about the Jermaine slip-ups on the Australian radio show and on the german channel RTL.....And I do take these as positive signs for the hoax. But nothing more than that.......

The no.7 had a lotta rlevance in Mj's life.....SO WHAT? Why is it so relevant to the hoax that we are supposed to spend our whole lives trying to debunk everything that has a 7 on it? I saw 7 sparrows in the morning.......SO? Did MJ send those sparrows to my place?

If everything would have to be a blatant 7 then why didnt the actual hoax start in July--the 7th month?.....Would've been perfect wouldnt it? Now you would say that 25th June , so 2+5 makes 7...To that I would say....What about June itself? Isnt that the 6th month and not the 7th?


We should be looking out for the REAL clues,,,like the Jermaine slip-ups and not try to prove taht the sun rises from the west....why? Just because some numbers say taht could happen......So everybody starts to believe that the SUN RISING FROM THE EAST IS ALSO A HOAX....THAT IT ACTUALLY RISES FROM THE WEST.  

If Michael wanted us to know about the hoax he would place clue that would be more transparent.....Like PAINS, Like the Larry King and Jermaine slip-ups, Like the DVD disclaimers, Like the KO statements, Like the Dancers tweets......Because he knows that everyones not an Einstein and he wouldnt have wanted anonymous einsteins to play with numbers either just because those numbers somehow fall into a particular pattern.

What I see here is a person who is trying to desperately save face by trying to form a realtion between numbers,trying to make a clue out of every little thing, because his/her logic didnt REALLY work out for so many times before.....A sorry state of affairs indeed. :roll:  
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Great job as always TS, very curious about the rest. If this ain't a hoax, I will eat all the shoes I own!
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Doctor Death, you are so right! We have so many other clues, real clues which happens right before our eyes! This theory I really never believed it. Some numbers are right because MJ himself had that strange signature back in 90s, but not this all difficult theory. There are too many numbers and my logical mind says Mj will appear not on a date important in numbers but on a date important in events. What I mean is that MJ wait for us to beLIEve, to be much more than we are right now, to be all united and together to make a real change in people's mentality all over the world. That is much more important than the numbers, don't you think?
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@euroalurora

Ye are as SPOT ON as SPOT ON can be..... ;)
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I agree with Dr. Death and the other doubters

I can't understand the excitement  and the enthusiasm about all this...

so what's really new? To me it just looks like a summary of what believers found out the last weeks/months....
no real prediction...
no real explanation about the redirects...This person seems to have a lot of time...
nothing more..nothing less

This latest post is no reason to be happy...no reason to be sad
maybe a reason to be even more confused
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Guys, let's wait for the other parts before jumping into conclusions
I give TIAI the beneficts of the doubts
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TS, Thanks for this update.  Very informative.  Patiently awaiting the other posts.  One Love.
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Quote from: "eurolaura"
During the RIP list on The Oscars they showed images from The Wiz, Thriller and Moonwalker, but The Wiz is important for the clues we have about it, right on the judge's table in the Conrad Murray arraignment. Why the f... he would decorate like this his table - two toys - an yelow taxi and a sunflower? For me this was the moment I realized we are on the right path to the truth and I moved from 99% to 100% MJ is still alive.
I propose that everybody here make a list of the recent events and clues which made them believe Mj is alive the most (with details). The new clues because the old ones everybody knows them. This way we can improve our lists together. Mine is:
1. The toys on the judge table. The sunflower and the taxi appeared in The Wiz at the end of a phase and the start of a new one. Means we are on the right path and nearer to the end of the hoax.
2. For me the movie Avatar holds a lot of clues. It is also connected with the Grammys and Earth Song tribute. I wrote about it many times on the net but nobody seems to see the same things as me and you know there are a lot of haters between us. So, if you want me to explain, please write me here.
3.  Some new movies hold a lot of clues, even the movies you don't imagine to have a connection like Valentine's Day. Here a guy named Jackson, a famous football player, admits the truth about his love life (he is gay - nothing to do with MJ of course) in front of all audience and publicists. A sports reporter, (Jamie Foxx) says something like this about him: "Mr Jackson will be remembered in history. He did everything for love." I felt these words were a little exagerated for the matter. As I saw the movie translated to Spanish I don't really know the exact words. Please correct me if you saw or have the posibility to see the movie. 2012, as you already know, has some clues also. In "Invictus" appears the words "This is it" in a very importanty moment of the movie. Soon I will see "Alice in Wonderland". I am very curious about the clues I will find in it.

The character in Valentine's Day is Jackson? Wow! 2012 character's name is Jackson as well. Too weird....
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TS, thank you for 4a . . . looking forward to the rest. Great job!
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Please be patient with me, I wrote this once already, but accidently hit the back button and deleted it. LOL  :(  But anyway.

Hey,

I have only posted once before. I prefer to read other people's thoughts, rather than post my own, but I have not seen this thought posted yet.

777+999 = 1776

1776 = We signed Declaration of Independence on this Day declaring US freedom from British Rule.

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/

I believe THISISALSOIT.COM had redirection to some Fireworks on July 4.

http://www.friendsforourriverfront.org/ ... 778829.jpg

Many people believed this redirection to be BAMSDAY.

Maybe it is...

The title of this Update is 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof Hoax, Not Murder

Maybe it is what it says.

The theme of this direct is TIMING. She (I actually think it is a female writing/doing this, but then again, you know what they say when you assume, you make an  A :shock:   out of U and Me) or He is supposed to be giving us the WHEN, WHY, and HOW it will happen, and states that we are in the revealing or 7th stage.

But, anyway, here is my original thought:

1776 (Independence - Referencing July 4) "I will see You in July" - Greastest Proof Hoax, Not Murder (In other words BAMSDAY).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mmqi7ppedk

I mean he did say it twice, "I'll see you In July", once in the middle of his speach, and againt at the end. I do not even know how many times he said , "This Is It". Then, notice at the end when he said them together, usually repettition is used to emphasize the importance of a message.

1776 (Independence) correlates with the Video clip of "This is It" before the movie aired. Hince, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Speaking about demonstration of FREEDOM - and the Signing of the Declaration of Independence.

Dr. King Jr. = Represented the minorities (any person no matter sex or race, who has felt they endured discrimination or injustice) to be free- to break the chains, and have their voices heard - to be treated with equality. The Superior Majority did not really care about the little people. They only wanted Power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qE22UOlQts

The Same goes for:

Signing of the Declation of Independence (July 4, 1776) = The United States wanting to be free - break the chains- from British Rule. The King of England did not care about the New World (United States, Colonists - The Little People). He too just wanted absolute power, and to take what he could squeeze out of the colonists.

Kind of like Big Business/Record Companies squeezing what they can out of the little people/artists. The little people are the ones who keep the Big Businesses running. However, they Big Companies tend to forget that, and take advantage of the situation. --- Make sense...? Where's Thomas Payne when you need him.  :D

July 4, 2010 = Demonstration of Freedom...? RED, WHITE, & BLUE

Also, RED = Michael in the Shirt  --> Symbolizes a Red Flag.
Blue ----> "Lighting in They Don't Really Care About Us" Video Clip & VH1 Pictures of the Fake Michael
White --> The Light of Peace (Light Man Revealed Piece by Piece by Piece), the white stain on his pants (although, I can't think of aything that it symbolizes except that maybe the video of him rehearsing is all from the same day, meaing he was healthy before his "death".), White can also be = Reveal (inner peace - everyone will feel when the hoax is revealed)

Actually, the Stage lighting in "They Don't Really Care About US" video Clip = had all three colors (Red, White, & Blue)


Like I said, I am mainly a reader, I do believe 100% in the hoax, but I keep most of my opinions to myself, but if I wrote something offensive, I apologize in advance.

These are my thoughts.
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Thanks TS, much appericated . Can't wait for your next update :D
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GOD BLESS YOU TS!!

You give so much hope! Looking forward to the next update, thank you.
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Great work!! I have not lost hope in this all being a HOAX!!
THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. IT WAS EXCELLENT...
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Thank You so much for writing again it really brings order to chaos. IT"S ALL FOR LOVE <3
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Now I wonder what 4 chapters and 44 points means? The rest is just a grate recap so far...

Tks!
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Wow, Great Post!  You really put a lot of thought into this.  It really makes a lot of sense and puts a whole new perspective on things
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Quote from: "DudewheresMichael"
Please be patient with me, I wrote this once already, but accidently hit the back button and deleted it. LOL  :(  But anyway.

Hey,

I have only posted once before. I prefer to read other people's thoughts, rather than post my own, but I have not seen this thought posted yet.

777+999 = 1776

1776 = We signed Declaration of Independence on this Day declaring US freedom from British Rule.

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/

I believe THISISALSOIT.COM had redirection to some Fireworks on July 4.

http://www.friendsforourriverfront.org/ ... 778829.jpg

Many people believed this redirection to be BAMSDAY.

Maybe it is...

The title of this Update is 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof Hoax, Not Murder

Maybe it is what it says.

The theme of this direct is TIMING. She (I actually think it is a female writing/doing this, but then again, you know what they say when you assume, you make an  A :shock:   out of U and Me) or He is supposed to be giving us the WHEN, WHY, and HOW it will happen, and states that we are in the revealing or 7th stage.

But, anyway, here is my original thought:

1776 (Independence - Referencing July 4) "I will see You in July" - Greastest Proof Hoax, Not Murder (In other words BAMSDAY).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mmqi7ppedk

I mean he did say it twice, "I'll see you In July", once in the middle of his speach, and againt at the end. I do not even know how many times he said , "This Is It". Then, notice at the end when he said them together, usually repettition is used to emphasize the importance of a message.

1776 (Independence) correlates with the Video clip of "This is It" before the movie aired. Hince, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Speaking about demonstration of FREEDOM - and the Signing of the Declaration of Independence.

Dr. King Jr. = Represented the minorities (any person no matter sex or race, who has felt they endured discrimination or injustice) to be free- to break the chains, and have their voices heard - to be treated with equality. The Superior Majority did not really care about the little people. They only wanted Power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qE22UOlQts

The Same goes for:

Signing of the Declation of Independence (July 4, 1776) = The United States wanting to be free - break the chains- from British Rule. The King of England did not care about the New World (United States, Colonists - The Little People). He too just wanted absolute power, and to take what he could squeeze out of the colonists.

Kind of like Big Business/Record Companies squeezing what they can out of the little people/artists. The little people are the ones who keep the Big Businesses running. However, they Big Companies tend to forget that, and take advantage of the situation. --- Make sense...? Where's Thomas Payne when you need him.  :D

July 4, 2010 = Demonstration of Freedom...? RED, WHITE, & BLUE

Also, RED = Michael in the Shirt  --> Symbolizes a Red Flag.
Blue ----> "Lighting in They Don't Really Care About Us" Video Clip & VH1 Pictures of the Fake Michael
White --> The Light of Peace (Light Man Revealed Piece by Piece by Piece), the white stain on his pants (although, I can't think of aything that it symbolizes except that maybe the video of him rehearsing is all from the same day, meaing he was healthy before his "death".), White can also be = Reveal (inner peace - everyone will feel when the hoax is revealed)

Actually, the Stage lighting in "They Don't Really Care About US" video Clip = had all three colors (Red, White, & Blue)


Like I said, I am mainly a reader, I do believe 100% in the hoax, but I keep most of my opinions to myself, but if I wrote something offensive, I apologize in advance.

These are my thoughts.

Wow that does make a lot of sense!!
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I can not believe some Of the things I have read here ...

i wanna shoot my head right now.  :(  :(
*frustration*
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TS....

Look Dude, frankly speaking this numbers game isnt really working for me anymore.  :x Sorry. You used the same excuse to proclaim that MJ could return in January......But That didnt happen. I need more logical stuff to be convinced this time around. I am not falling for the numbers game again.......I did that before....The only thing it got me was a whole lotta misery.


Plus are you playing Mr.Mysterious because you really know something about the hoax that we dont? Or is it another person person tryng to force a conclusion out of a few numbers that could mean anything?....

On one hand, I do keep track of rcent events and I do know about the Jermaine slip-ups on the Australian radio show and on the german channel RTL.....And I do take these as positive signs for the hoax. But nothing more than that.......

The no.7 had a lotta rlevance in Mj's life.....SO WHAT? Why is it so relevant to the hoax that we are supposed to spend our whole lives trying to debunk everything that has a 7 on it? I saw 7 sparrows in the morning.......SO? Did MJ send those sparrows to my place?

If everything would have to be a blatant 7 then why didnt the actual hoax start in July--the 7th month?.....Would've been perfect wouldnt it? Now you would say that 25th June , so 2+5 makes 7...To that I would say....What about June itself? Isnt that the 6th month and not the 7th?


We should be looking out for the REAL clues,,,like the Jermaine slip-ups and not try to prove taht the sun rises from the west....why? Just because some numbers say taht could happen......So everybody starts to believe that the SUN RISING FROM THE EAST IS ALSO A HOAX....THAT IT ACTUALLY RISES FROM THE WEST. :roll:

If Michael wanted us to know about the hoax he would place clue that would be more transparent.....Like PAINS, Like the Larry King and Jermaine slip-ups, Like the DVD disclaimers, Like the KO statements, Like the Dancers tweets......Because he knows that everyones not an Einstein and he wouldnt have wanted anonymous einsteins to play with numbers either just because those numbers somehow fall into a particular pattern.

What I see here is a person who is trying to desperately save face by trying to form a realtion between numbers,trying to make a clue out of every little thing, because his/her logic didnt REALLY work out for so many times before.....A sorry state of affairs indeed. :roll:

hahahaha....i dont know why..but i agree with you!!....we need to focus in the REAL CLUES (slip-ups, tweets, etc..) and no speculated about some numbers that maybe have no meaning...definitly i am more focus in the things goin on in courtroom and all taht BS around the Jackson Family...thats the key of all this mess!!...although we have to thanks TS for the effort....after all we r believers and we look into everything to find the thruth!! :geek:
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In each good play there are administrators behind the curtains that are administering the stars in front of the curtain and keeping track of the storybook. There is also sometimes the role of a storyteller - mainly connected with fairy tales for children.
Michael is watching the forums. I bet he's laughing right now.
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oooo I bet he has been watching since June.... :lol:  8-)


Hello Mike...how are yu today?

BAMSDAY plans on the way?

Hope they see the light of the day.....


.....I could go on and on 8-)
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Quote from: "DudewheresMichael"
Please be patient with me, I wrote this once already, but accidently hit the back button and deleted it. LOL  :(  But anyway.

Hey,

I have only posted once before. I prefer to read other people's thoughts, rather than post my own, but I have not seen this thought posted yet.

777+999 = 1776

1776 = We signed Declaration of Independence on this Day declaring US freedom from British Rule.

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/

I believe THISISALSOIT.COM had redirection to some Fireworks on July 4.

http://www.friendsforourriverfront.org/ ... 778829.jpg

Many people believed this redirection to be BAMSDAY.

Maybe it is...

The title of this Update is 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof Hoax, Not Murder

Maybe it is what it says.

The theme of this direct is TIMING. She (I actually think it is a female writing/doing this, but then again, you know what they say when you assume, you make an  A :shock:   out of U and Me) or He is supposed to be giving us the WHEN, WHY, and HOW it will happen, and states that we are in the revealing or 7th stage.

But, anyway, here is my original thought:

1776 (Independence - Referencing July 4) "I will see You in July" - Greastest Proof Hoax, Not Murder (In other words BAMSDAY).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mmqi7ppedk

I mean he did say it twice, "I'll see you In July", once in the middle of his speach, and againt at the end. I do not even know how many times he said , "This Is It". Then, notice at the end when he said them together, usually repettition is used to emphasize the importance of a message.

1776 (Independence) correlates with the Video clip of "This is It" before the movie aired. Hince, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Speaking about demonstration of FREEDOM - and the Signing of the Declaration of Independence.

Dr. King Jr. = Represented the minorities (any person no matter sex or race, who has felt they endured discrimination or injustice) to be free- to break the chains, and have their voices heard - to be treated with equality. The Superior Majority did not really care about the little people. They only wanted Power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qE22UOlQts

The Same goes for:

Signing of the Declation of Independence (July 4, 1776) = The United States wanting to be free - break the chains- from British Rule. The King of England did not care about the New World (United States, Colonists - The Little People). He too just wanted absolute power, and to take what he could squeeze out of the colonists.

Kind of like Big Business/Record Companies squeezing what they can out of the little people/artists. The little people are the ones who keep the Big Businesses running. However, they Big Companies tend to forget that, and take advantage of the situation. --- Make sense...? Where's Thomas Payne when you need him.  :D

July 4, 2010 = Demonstration of Freedom...? RED, WHITE, & BLUE

Also, RED = Michael in the Shirt  --> Symbolizes a Red Flag.
Blue ----> "Lighting in They Don't Really Care About Us" Video Clip & VH1 Pictures of the Fake Michael
White --> The Light of Peace (Light Man Revealed Piece by Piece by Piece), the white stain on his pants (although, I can't think of aything that it symbolizes except that maybe the video of him rehearsing is all from the same day, meaing he was healthy before his "death".), White can also be = Reveal (inner peace - everyone will feel when the hoax is revealed)

Actually, the Stage lighting in "They Don't Really Care About US" video Clip = had all three colors (Red, White, & Blue)


Like I said, I am mainly a reader, I do believe 100% in the hoax, but I keep most of my opinions to myself, but if I wrote something offensive, I apologize in advance.

These are my thoughts.




 :mrgreen:
Absolutely marvelous! Bingo! Give this person a twix! it is time for you to have a break!

Post more often ok!

Peace
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:D Good lookin' out.  8-)
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Quote from: "DudewheresMichael"
Please be patient with me, I wrote this once already, but accidently hit the back button and deleted it. LOL  :(  But anyway.

Hey,

I have only posted once before. I prefer to read other people's thoughts, rather than post my own, but I have not seen this thought posted yet.

777+999 = 1776

1776 = We signed Declaration of Independence on this Day declaring US freedom from British Rule.

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/

I believe THISISALSOIT.COM had redirection to some Fireworks on July 4.

http://www.friendsforourriverfront.org/ ... 778829.jpg

Many people believed this redirection to be BAMSDAY.

Maybe it is...
etc.
(I cut it for not making a big post)
WOW!.. pretty impressive! although I don't believe in the colour theorys, I must say that this shocked me a lot.. maybe it has nothing to do with coulours..or yes! IDK!! I will let the gate open in this one. But I wanna say that all the rest was a really nice conclusion!! You need to post often!!
Lots of L.O.V.E!
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I only want to tell to all of you that you are amazing people.
You are all so smart and know so much, I learned a lot from here.
Thank you all.

Mike, I know we have to focus on Why, not When, but please understand we are only human  :oops:

Love you angel, please come back....and if not, take me with you   :D  

Love you more
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whats the new update for today??? this is the same as yesterday:(
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Dear members,

We have deleted Yvonne's post and the replies to it.  This should be handled privately.  We have sent her a PM about it.

Greetz,

Mo & Souza
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I agree with Dr. Death and the other doubters

I can't understand the excitement  and the enthusiasm about all this...

so what's really new? To me it just looks like a summary of what believers found out the last weeks/months....
no real prediction...
no real explanation about the redirects...This person seems to have a lot of time...
nothing more..nothing less

This latest post is no reason to be happy...no reason to be sad
maybe a reason to be even more confused

So right!!!!! I cannot believe that people are still soo...

A lot thanks to Dr. Death I feel the same way you feel and I send LOVE and strength to those who are attacked because they do not believe some random people and who think for themselves. I will always support you! Think different!
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hi. eventhough this is all very much so interesting. i am feeling like a mixture between criminal minds (the series) and the big bang theory (the series). i mean with all these numbers analagies and all. we shall also add the series "numbers". this is so crucial. i loved the mystery though. cant wait to see what tomorrow will bring!!!!! i love you MJ this is so it!!!

"if you just Believe..."
-mj85

p.s. 8+5=13 1+3=4 /4x1=4+3=7!! i figured it all out!!! lol

love,
suzie_jean aka tamika renee!!!
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TS ! Amazing work with numbers & you might be right!!!!....But it`s too many of`em  ### and  it leads  (for some of us)    to  confusion.:  :?:  :!: ........... With all due respect I have to agree with DR. Death and others who side with him/her ....I go with what I hear, see and feel and then analyze it all i.e:   Family slip ups, all the media  nonsense that doesn`t add up," surf boards"being loaded into ambulance, Dr.`s who don`t know anything about CPR`s , the body is missing... anybody : seen the body??? :roll: , who`s  really Dr. Murray/or how many Dr. Murrays we have, :?: , the memorial, the burial and all that stuff we went thru these past 8 + months....Still : These forums are amazing ...so many bright people , L*O*V*E to you all.
My  compliments to Ginafelicia : you made me laugh ! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Also I`m saying to you Michael : come back to us ! We will be there (here) for you and will never let you part for you`re always in our heart.!!! But If you won`t and  will take Ginafelicia with you, can I come along ? I`m willing to live  :arrow: dangerously ! :mrgreen:
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Hi Honey......

I am a "him" not a "her".... 8-)  ;)
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Of course I looked at the last number in this update... 4-44 and decided to do some searching.

http://http://www.biblewheel.com/Gr/GR_444.asp

444 = Perfect Love

You can read more in the link but what stood out for me is this verse:

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
1 John 4.18

Yes we are living in a culture of fear.  We're scared of terrorist attacks, swine flu, "natural" disasters, death... but we must not focus on the challenge... we must focus on perpetuating the solution.

THERE IS NO FEAR IN LOVE... PERFECT LOVE... L.O.V.E. CASTS OUT FEAR.

Hmmm... maybe it is all for love...  :D

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Lilwendy I like your blog, I'm always reading, but never comment, and you are right when you say you have to read much is the only way out of ignorance.
I am a person who is hearing the arguments of others, but not think like them, but when I put in a balance thoughts of unbelievers and the arguments of believers, that balance is definitely for us believers . :lol:

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I'm getting more excited every day!  :D
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Of course I looked at the last number in this update... 4-44 and decided to do some searching.

http://http://www.biblewheel.com/Gr/GR_444.asp

444 = Perfect Love

You can read more in the link but what stood out for me is this verse:

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
1 John 4.18

Yes we are living in a culture of fear.  We're scared of terrorist attacks, swine flu, "natural" disasters, death... but we must not focus on the challenge... we must focus on perpetuating the solution.

THERE IS NO FEAR IN LOVE... PERFECT LOVE... L.O.V.E. CASTS OUT FEAR.

Hmmm... maybe it is all for love...  :D

http://http://wp.me/pGwtF-gj

Wow, Thank You! I was curious about the meaning of 4-44... now it's clear for me :)

L.O.V.E.
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An interesting tidbit:

This update was posted 11:59 pm (pacific time, which is the time zone for LA).

1 + 1 + 5 + 9 = 16

1 + 6 = 7
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Please be patient with me, I wrote this once already, but accidently hit the back button and deleted it. LOL  :(  But anyway.

Hey,

I have only posted once before. I prefer to read other people's thoughts, rather than post my own, but I have not seen this thought posted yet.

777+999 = 1776

1776 = We signed Declaration of Independence on this Day declaring US freedom from British Rule.

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/

I believe THISISALSOIT.COM had redirection to some Fireworks on July 4.

http://www.friendsforourriverfront.org/ ... 778829.jpg

Many people believed this redirection to be BAMSDAY.

Maybe it is...

The title of this Update is 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof Hoax, Not Murder

Maybe it is what it says.

The theme of this direct is TIMING. She (I actually think it is a female writing/doing this, but then again, you know what they say when you assume, you make an  A :shock:   out of U and Me) or He is supposed to be giving us the WHEN, WHY, and HOW it will happen, and states that we are in the revealing or 7th stage.

But, anyway, here is my original thought:

1776 (Independence - Referencing July 4) "I will see You in July" - Greastest Proof Hoax, Not Murder (In other words BAMSDAY).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mmqi7ppedk

I mean he did say it twice, "I'll see you In July", once in the middle of his speach, and againt at the end. I do not even know how many times he said , "This Is It". Then, notice at the end when he said them together, usually repettition is used to emphasize the importance of a message.

1776 (Independence) correlates with the Video clip of "This is It" before the movie aired. Hince, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Speaking about demonstration of FREEDOM - and the Signing of the Declaration of Independence.

Dr. King Jr. = Represented the minorities (any person no matter sex or race, who has felt they endured discrimination or injustice) to be free- to break the chains, and have their voices heard - to be treated with equality. The Superior Majority did not really care about the little people. They only wanted Power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qE22UOlQts

The Same goes for:

Signing of the Declation of Independence (July 4, 1776) = The United States wanting to be free - break the chains- from British Rule. The King of England did not care about the New World (United States, Colonists - The Little People). He too just wanted absolute power, and to take what he could squeeze out of the colonists.

Kind of like Big Business/Record Companies squeezing what they can out of the little people/artists. The little people are the ones who keep the Big Businesses running. However, they Big Companies tend to forget that, and take advantage of the situation. --- Make sense...? Where's Thomas Payne when you need him.  :D

July 4, 2010 = Demonstration of Freedom...? RED, WHITE, & BLUE

Also, RED = Michael in the Shirt  --> Symbolizes a Red Flag.
Blue ----> "Lighting in They Don't Really Care About Us" Video Clip & VH1 Pictures of the Fake Michael
White --> The Light of Peace (Light Man Revealed Piece by Piece by Piece), the white stain on his pants (although, I can't think of aything that it symbolizes except that maybe the video of him rehearsing is all from the same day, meaing he was healthy before his "death".), White can also be = Reveal (inner peace - everyone will feel when the hoax is revealed)

Actually, the Stage lighting in "They Don't Really Care About US" video Clip = had all three colors (Red, White, & Blue)


Like I said, I am mainly a reader, I do believe 100% in the hoax, but I keep most of my opinions to myself, but if I wrote something offensive, I apologize in advance.

These are my thoughts.

Very thoughtful and interesting! You could be right! It’s definitely something to think about!

Now, in regards to the stain on his pants, my mom was looking through my official This Is It photo book a couple of months ago and noticed something right away. The stain stood out to her and she called me into the kitchen that day and she told me about it. She asked me to look for interesting things through out the book.

I looked at all of the pictures of him in that book and he is wearing the pants with the stain in every single one. I told her that and she said “Look again.” And I was like “All he seems to be doing in all of these pictures is switching jackets to give the illusion of different days.” But we all know that Michael rarely wore the same things over and over in public. He also would not wear the same clothing to rehearsal again. She again told me to look again and “think harder” until I gave up. She said “Do you think that the stain has significance other than those you have said?” I was more confused than before….

She then said this (I’ll never forget it): “It is a common practice for gang members to use scare tactics on opposing gangs or individuals that dare tp cross them. Instead of killing them, they will break one or both of their legs at the midpoint between the knee and ankle as a warning. This could be nothing but that’s the first thing that came to my mind when I saw that stain.”

I was like…. “Woah…..”

Now that I think about it, Michael has been known to cross dangerous people and he was aware of it too. Not only is his message LOVE but it is also TRUTH. And the truth has always been a threat to the evil powers that be.  

It’s just a thought. I’m not saying that people should believe this at all. It’s just something to think about. It’s important to have an open mind in all of this.

I don’t think anything you have said is offensive at all. But I can understand why you said that. There are a lot of thick people in this world and sadly, so of them lurk here in this forum. And that’s all I’ll say about that for now.  8-) LOL
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I know myself something about numerology and I can say that you're right: Mj is a 6 as birth date and a 6 as a "death" date. 6 means family, children, domestic matters and, above all, love.
His name number is 8 or 7 according to the modern numerology. He is 8 as Michael Joseph Jackson or 7 as Michael Jackson. According to the original numerology, Chaldean Numerology, which was born in Sumeria thousands of years ago, Michael Joseph Jackson is a Master Number 55 or Master Number 44 (without Joseph). I tend to believe the Chaldean Numerology because MJ couldn't be just an 8 or a 7, only average people are.
You can find out more about MJ numerology here:
 
http://astronlogia.com/2009/06/26/rise- ... yanalysis/

http://www.tarot.com/blog/?p=427

http://ezinearticles.com/?Michael-Jacks ... id=2536772

but especially here:

http://www.thereadingroom101.com/michae ... umbers.htm

And if you want to read more about the 2 systems of numerology, read here:

http://www.thereadingroom101.com/
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When I say you're right I reply to raphaelleanique which post his/her opinion on the first page, the last one. He/she said that the death time was a 6 not a 7 according to the numerology.
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Quote from: "eurolaura"
I know myself something about numerology and I can say that you're right: Mj is a 6 as birth date and a 6 as a "death" date. 6 means family, children, domestic matters and, above all, love.
His name number is 8 or 7 according to the modern numerology. He is 8 as Michael Joseph Jackson or 7 as Michael Jackson. According to the original numerology, Chaldean Numerology, which was born in Sumeria thousands of years ago, Michael Joseph Jackson is a Master Number 55 or Master Number 44 (without Joseph). I tend to believe the Chaldean Numerology because MJ couldn't be just an 8 or a 7, only average people are.
You can find out more about MJ numerology here:
 
http://astronlogia.com/2009/06/26/rise- ... yanalysis/

http://www.tarot.com/blog/?p=427

http://ezinearticles.com/?Michael-Jacks ... id=2536772

but especially here:

http://www.thereadingroom101.com/michae ... umbers.htm

And if you want to read more about the 2 systems of numerology, read here:

http://www.thereadingroom101.com/

I want to specify something...Michael's name is Michael JOE Jackson not Michael JOSEPH Jackson !!!
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I understand that the timing of the O2 announcement was not random but fits with other key dates and numbers.
   
TS gave the example of four months before and after.  111 and 333 days later (inclusive reckoning) have also been significant dates.  I saw two other key dates exactly 27 weeks before and after the O2 announcement.  
27 reduces to 9.    

So I thought when TS posted Part 4a that the final Part 4d was planned for today 03-16-2010.  
I'm wondering now if anything is going to happen today.  

I guess you have to be careful with the numbers not to read too much into everything.  Oh well back to the calculator.  

http://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html
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Michael Jackson and TuPac Shakur both have done the same exact numerology death hoax, for the same cause (even though Michael's I feel will have a far bigger impact just because how we've grown with him and who in the world does not like Michael's music?? No one. No one can dispute that he's the best entertainer to have ever lived). I've read on all this before (numerology, energies, God being One with everything in the universe, etc.) and am now just waiting to see what's going to happen next.

There is said to be a Harmonic Convergance (the same one that happened in 1987 where we went past Armaggedon and had our energy towards peace and Heaven on Earth), based on the Mayan Calendar, on May 27/28th 2010. It is spring time, and time for new beginnings! (resurrection) <3

Thank you TS, and your works with TIAI, thank you Mo and Souza, and thank you MJAlive999 for providing the best information on there about Michael's work of art, and I praise him and support him fully. Michael, if you or someone you know that can pass this information on to you somewhere is reading this, please know that I do feel you are an ascended master, much like Jesus or St.Germain themselves. You are a wonderful human being and we have been blessed to have you live in our lifetime. Please stay strong and we will spread your message so it's the message that they have a cause for, and not just wanting to have you back (even though any fan is going to have that momentous feeling that your body is still with this Earth) <3 Spread the word, everyone! I already put the link for ThisIsAlsoIt.com on my FB so I can have my friends reading this, and then their friends too!
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Reaching out to touch a stranger
Electric eyes are everywhere
See that girl, she knows I\'m watching
She likes the way I stare


If they say, why, why? Tell \'em that is human nature
Why, why does he do me that way?
If they say, why, why? Tell \'em that is human nature
Why, why does he do me that way?
I like livin\' this way, I like lovin\' this way

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with reference to this update #4 with 44 parts (444)

does it point to April 4th at 4 (am/pm) being a special day/time?

it's Easter Sunday which signifies Ressurection.
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Quote from: "JukeBox"
with reference to this update #4 with 44 parts (444)

does it point to April 4th at 4 (am/pm) being a special day/time?

it's Easter Sunday which signifies Ressurection.
At least we can bet on a new redirect/ update for this specific date  ;)

BTW: Today we are celebrating the day when Holly Mary was announced by Angel Gavril that she was going to gave birth to Messia. March 25 is 9 months before December 25 (Christmas)...So, I suppose TS would like to mark this day. He also missed March 21, 2010? I'm surprised that he was silant on that day:
21+3+2010= 3+3+3=9. (anyway, I didn't figure it by myself :))

Hugs.
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Quote from: "JukeBox"
with reference to this update #4 with 44 parts (444)

does it point to April 4th at 4 (am/pm) being a special day/time?

it's Easter Sunday which signifies Ressurection.
At least we can bet on a new redirect/ update for this specific date  ;)

BTW: Today we are celebrating the day when Holly Mary was announced by Angel Gavril that she was going to gave birth to Messia. March 25 is 9 months before December 25 (Christmas)...So, I suppose TS would like to mark this day. He also missed March 21, 2010? I'm surprised that he was silant on that day:
21+3+2010= 3+3+3=9. (anyway, I didn't figure it by myself :))

Hugs.

Hi ralu, thx for your reply. :) i did think 21/3/10 was a special day too cos of the 333 and also the start of spring. you are right about today tho (25mar) TS did make a new redirect to MJalive999's youtube channel. i'm glad things seem to be moving forward now i can def see the piece by piece unraveling, and also 25 March was special on twitter cos of believers' efforts to make #MJsalive and #welovemj trend. i hope it made more people aware about the hoax and the Love message.

i'm so excited about BAM! Hugs and L.O.V.E.  :P
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Re-reading TS post this caught my attention:

"Furthermore, how could you mix up an airport with a hospital—they are not similar: either in meaning, or in pronunciation. And if it was just a random goof, having nothing to do with the hospital or the hoax: then why the word “airport”? It would be just as likely to goof up and say the “golf course”, or the “barber shop”, or the “mall”, or “Pizza Hut”, or “Mount Everest”, or anything whatsoever OTHER than the AIRPORT!!!"

TS has posted that the 9th of March  and on 21st of June we had an article with Murray at the barber shop...can we say that it's a prediction ?

Conrad Murray -- Lookin' for a Quick Buzz
Originally posted Jun 21st 2010 8:00 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=11289

See also "Dr. Murray's Barbershop Confession: I Didn't Kill MJ" http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=11334

Also maybe that the other examples TS has given are clues "golf course" ?  "mall" ? "Pizza Hut" (I'm sure there was something with Pizza Hut but don't remember where) "Mount Everest" (2012 Movie, Himalaya, "Whipped cream on top" TMZ used this expression which makes me think of a mountain :? ...)  ?
Well I'm sure TS didn't chose the barber shop randomly tell me if I'm wrong...
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Sarahli, I was thinking and the only thing I remembered was the metaphor of the barber;


God exists!
A Barber told him their customer while recortaba you hair: -Note gentleman that I do not believe that God exists, as you say.
- But, what you say that? -asks the client.
-It is very easy, just go out to realize that God does not exist. Or... tell me, just in case if God existed, would have so many sick? Should be abandoned? If God existed, there would be no suffering nor so much pain to humanity. I can not think that there is a God that allows these things.
Customer a time was thinking, but did not respond to avoid a discussion. Barber finished his work, and just left the barbershop, saw on the street to a man with a beard and long hair; looked very disheveled. Then went back to the barbershop and told the Barber.
-Do you know something? The barbers there!. -How that don't exist? -asks the Barber - here I am and I am a Barber.
-Not! -said customer - there is no, because if any barbers there would be people with hair and beard as long as this man that goes by the street.
-Ah, the barbers if they exist, what happens is that people don't come to my.
-Exact! -said the client - the same applies to God. People are not going to God, and why there is so much pain and misery.

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Sarahli, I was thinking and the only thing I remembered was the metaphor of the barber;


God exists!
A Barber told him their customer while recortaba you hair: -Note gentleman that I do not believe that God exists, as you say.
- But, what you say that? -asks the client.
-It is very easy, just go out to realize that God does not exist. Or... tell me, just in case if God existed, would have so many sick? Should be abandoned? If God existed, there would be no suffering nor so much pain to humanity. I can not think that there is a God that allows these things.
Customer a time was thinking, but did not respond to avoid a discussion. Barber finished his work, and just left the barbershop, saw on the street to a man with a beard and long hair; looked very disheveled. Then went back to the barbershop and told the Barber.
-Do you know something? The barbers there!. -How that don't exist? -asks the Barber - here I am and I am a Barber.
-Not! -said customer - there is no, because if any barbers there would be people with hair and beard as long as this man that goes by the street.
-Ah, the barbers if they exist, what happens is that people don't come to my.
-Exact! -said the client - the same applies to God. People are not going to God, and why there is so much pain and misery.

Thank you Paula ! Great story and good lesson !  ;)
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Re-reading TS post this caught my attention:

"Furthermore, how could you mix up an airport with a hospital—they are not similar: either in meaning, or in pronunciation. And if it was just a random goof, having nothing to do with the hospital or the hoax: then why the word “airport”? It would be just as likely to goof up and say the “golf course”, or the “barber shop”, or the “mall”, or “Pizza Hut”, or “Mount Everest”, or anything whatsoever OTHER than the AIRPORT!!!"

TS has posted that the 9th of March  and on 21st of June we had an article with Murray at the barber shop...can we say that it's a prediction ?

Pizza Hut is sponsoring on TMZ since a few days now...^-^
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