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The Weird List

  • on: November 23, 2009, 01:43:35 PM
The Weird List

Credit goes to mjtruth at http://mjtruth.wordpress.com for this list. This list is reprinted with permission from the author.

This is the page (which will be updated frequently as mjtruth finds new stuff or think of new stuff), is where they ’ll keep a running list of all the weird shit associated with all this. Some of these weird things will point to one theory, some will point to another. Some of them may contradict based on the fact that not every single piece of info we have may be true. Which is part of why pieces are hard to fit together on this. Some of them are next to meaningless by themselves, but when combined with other things form a pattern. Many posts on this blog will come from exploring one or more of the things from this list:

If any of my facts are wrong, please let mjturth know so they can fix and update the list


In no particular order:

The 911 call didn’t sound overly panicked and Michael Jackson was not mentioned by name. (It’s possible he didn’t mention the name because 911 might think it was a hoax and not respond.)


Some have stated the oldest son discovered the father, but later the Dr. claimed that the reason it took so long to call 911 is that he couldn’t find anyone to make the call. (wouldn’t the son be able to make the call, he is 12 after all.) It took 30 minutes to call 911. Hasn’t Dr. Murray ever heard of a cell phone? (this point gets addressed farther down this list.)


Dr. Conrad Murray, who is supposed to be a cardiologist was doing CPR on the bed. (It’s supposed to be done on a flat hard surface…floor. Murray claimed that it was done on the bed cause MJ was frail, but several people have contradicted the report of MJ being “frail.”)


TMZ, a tabloid media source was the FIRST to report MJ had died. They reported it before the coroner and before Jermaine Jackson made his public statement. (While we’re on the topic, isn’t that weird too? Is it normal for a family member to make a public statement instead of the doctor in charge?)


Though he was taken to the hospital and they tried to revive him for an hour, he was pronounced dead at UCLA. However, despite this, almost no one had any kind of comment regarding it. No official doctor’s statements, no nurses being interviewed, no second cousins of neighboring patients coming out to gawk and report what they saw or heard. The only comments reported was someone who worked there said something strange was going on with regards to MJ, and someone else claimed the fire alarm went off while MJ was there. (In the CNN transcripts they mention the fire alarms in passing.)


Dr. Conrad Murray refused to sign the death certificate. No physician at UCLA in charge would sign either. In fact no UCLA doctor has made any kind of statement confirming the death of Michael Jackson or even that he was on the premises.


Cause of death was listed as “deferred” until after the autopsy. The DC states that it is only valid if signed in purple ink. At the bottom it’s signed in BLUE ink. There are also many irregularities of the document which indicate it possibly isn’t legitimate.


The autopsy results have been held, pending a toxicology report, which was due but is now expected to be two more weeks. (at time of posting this). A total of 3 autopsies have been ordered. One official, one by the family who for some reason wanted their own autopsy performed, and a third reportedly requested by Joe Jackson, MJ’s father. (ETA: Later the autopsy and tox reports have been stated to be delayed “indefinitely.”)


There is, in existence a SINGLE photo of MJ dead (or dying.) Taken by a tabloid reporter through a DARK tinted window of the ambulance. No other photos of him got taken, no photos at the hospital, no photos anywhere. (ETA: Upon further research there appear to be three photos taken in close succession, but how was the photo so clear and not blurred? And why does MJ look so healthy, alive, and young? It looks like it could be a wax dummy from the Ghosts set.)


There were several security cameras at the mansion in LA where MJ collapsed, but there is missing time from them. No video footage of the events in question.


MJ’s personal physician Dr. Tohme claimed MJ had no heart problems, that he danced 4 hours a day and it was more likely that he (Dr. Tohme) would have a heart attack than MJ. (Dr. Tohme was mistakenly reported as MJ’s personal physician, turns out he was his business manager and this point about what he said or didn’t say and whether or not it’s accurate, cannot be confirmed.)


Though there have been several people who have come forward suddenly talking about MJ having a drug problem and them trying to have an intervention for him, many other credible sources have come forward to say the opposite, among them: Mark Lester, and Tom Meserau. Many people at the last rehearsal claimed he was energetic and on top of his game and in no way seemed sickly or drugged. Supposedly family members wanted to have an intervention in 2007. But in 2007 MJ was in Ireland or Bahrain, how would his family know he had a drug problem if he’s halfway across the world? (A commenter here states is was in the US, but I’m really not sure about that.) Further, Jermaine has claimed on Larry King that he was not aware of any kind of drug problem on MJ’s part. If the family was “staging an intervention” wouldn’t Jermaine have been made aware of the situation?


Why are we just now hearing about MJ’s drug problem now? While it is true he had an RX drug dependency in 1993 (because he admitted it in an interview), and he may have had problems with RX drugs at various points and even at the end, why… with all the freaking out about hyperbaric chambers, chimpanzees, plastic surgery etc, did no Tabloid reporter ever think to jump all over the “Wacko Jacko on Drugs” bandwagon?


Why are there contradictory stories about MJ’s health? Some have said he seemed frail and weak. He was underweight. He couldn’t possibly do 50 concerts. Others said he was vibrant, energetic, healthy, on top of his game. And these were all people who had seen him recently.


Is it convenient that AEG just happens to do all this footage, the day before he drops dead?


How does a man with a supposed long-term RX drug problem pass a 4-5 hour physical a few months prior to his death in order to have his concerts insured by Lloyd’s of London? That is something that would show up on a 4-5 hour physical. Either some insurance fraud is going on, or someone isn’t reporting the whole truth regarding MJ and drugs. Or he wasn’t on drugs.


Why did so many of MJ’s longterm friends not show up at the memorial at all, but those who ended up speaking and performing either never met MJ or hadn’t spoken to him in years? (Queen Latifah had never met him, Brooke Shields hadn’t spoken to him in years. Liz Taylor, Mac Culkin, Diana Ross, all declined showing up to name a few.)


While I don’t want to disrespect Liz Taylor, why would she mourn on Twitter only? She couldn’t go to the memorial, but she could tweet about it?


Dr. Conrad Murray fled the scene. He’s supposedly cooperating with investigators, but then he goes back to the bat cave and even tabloid reporters can’t seem to find him.


And just out of curiosity… why does it seem like only one picture of this doctor exists on the planet? Every article I see about him shows the same freaking picture. Now here is a test to try. Go to Google, click the link for “News” Then type: “Dr. Conrad Murray” in parenthesis. To the left there should be an archive. Archives generally go for YEARS, up to ten years or more. But there are only archives for 2009. Did he not exist before then? Whoops! now search his name in parenthesis under images… find me ONE image that isn’t the same exact one. In his entire life he only got his picture made that one time?


Dr. Murray has been described by some patients as a “holistic doctor” who didn’t like to prescribe medications, especially stronger medications like painkillers. If this is true, it’s unlikely MJ would have brought him on board if he was looking for an “enabling doctor.” And it’s unlikely Murray would have enabled him.


Up to a year ago all kinds of crazy tabloid stories were being leaked about MJ’s failing health and all kinds of crazy diseases he supposedly had.


He was visiting a medical center close by several times prior to his death.


A tabloid reporter predicted that MJ had six months to live, and six months later he died. (this is also the same time that the next thing in this list happened.)


Someone called a radio station and hoaxed MJ’s death several months ago. It was reported that the pop star had died, but later this report was retracted. (You can youtube search this. There is a video about it. The hoax even mentions a drug overdose.)


Several long-term and diehard MJ fans have expressed doubt that the person giving the O2 announcement at the London theatre was actually Michael Jackson. Many (including myself on this point) believe that it was an impersonator based on the way he walked (totally unlike MJ), the weird mannerisms and gestures and almost bragging manner (MJ was always humble with his fans, and everybody else, ALWAYS), and his accent is just OFF. This isn’t a matter of voice tone or pitch which alternated with him depending on how shy he was feeling, or if he needed to project his voice, this was ACCENT, totally wrong. Here is the video if you want to judge for yourself. Fast forward to about 4:32 if you want to skip past the advertisement to the MJ announcement. That is totally not MJ. His smile is also wrong.

ETA: I now think it’s possible that MJ was at the O2 but that he was acting weird, talking in a funny accent, and walking like 50 cent on purpose to create controversy. (i.e. he was punking us.)


Dr. Murray’s excuse (delivered in an interview through his attorney, since he vanished into the bat cave), for why he didn’t call 911 sooner is that there was no landline hooked up for some security reason or another. When asked why he didn’t use his cell phone, the attorney said that the doctor didn’t have Michael’s address. Oh really? His attending physician who was at his house didn’t know the address? Well here is a wacky concept: CELL PHONES HAVE GPS. They didn’t NEED him to know the address. Further, he could have just said: “It’s Michael Jackson.” I’m sure someone would have figured it out. It wasn’t like MJ didn’t live practically down the street from UCLA.


How could investigators rule out foul play before they had an autopsy or a tox screen? Isn’t that a little weird and presumptuous? Then they later said they weren’t ruling out homicide. Then they came back and said probably no one will be charged with anything… all of these statements BEFORE the toxicology report came back, which is what they are supposed to be waiting on before making any judgments in these matters.


If Dr. Murray is a cardiologist, and MJ is too weak to move off the bed, why wouldn’t he have had with him and used a defibrillator?


Supposedly MJ insisted on hiring Dr. Murray, a doctor who had treated his sick daughter once in 2006 and apparently the two became friends. MJ claimed he was comfortable with him and wanted AEG to hire him on for the tour. We have no way of knowing if MJ insisted on this doctor or not, since most people hadn’t met him and the people claiming this are AEG and Dr. Murray’s attorney, people who have a vested interest in MJ having a prior friendship with Murray to keep suspicion off them.


Cherilynn Lee went on CNN after MJ’s death to claim that MJ wanted an IV drip of Diprivan to sleep. She was a NUTRITIONIST. Why on EARTH would MJ go to a holistic nutritionist to ask for Diprivan? Or any other drug? She was let go previously. Why would he call someone he hadn’t talked to for 3 months to ask for this drug? If MJ had all these enabling doctors, WHY would he go to this woman he hadn’t spoken to in three months? Not only that, she claims in the interview that MJ didn’t want pills, he wanted an IV. However others have said MJ was afraid of needles. Why would he be chasing needle drugs? She claimed it was important to come out and set the record straight and she didn’t want her 15 minutes of fame. Um, okay. Which is what all former Jackson employees said right before their mouths started flapping bullshit. She also said he owed her money. So why would he call her if he owed her money? She claims in interviews that it’s “not the drugs they’re saying” (Demerol), but it’s Diprivan… on her say so. Well does she need to save the truth of MJ? I mean this is why we have the tox screen going on. It will reveal whatever drugs were going on. On the PLUS side, she portrays MJ as someone absolutely convinced it was safe and that his doctor said it was safe, which isn’t the behavior of a ‘drug addict’ but someone who trusted doctors who lied. (But I find even THAT kind of hard to believe considering MJ read and researched everything.)


Grace Rwaramba refuted claims that she’d said she “pumped MJ’s stomach” from the drugs. She never said this, but the stories circulated everywhere with her name on it soon after MJ’s death.


Dr. Conrad Murray after disappearing off the face of the planet where mysteriously even tabloid reporters can’t find him to snap a candid shot (despite supposedly him surfacing to cooperate with police), hires an attorney. Police repeatedly said Dr. Murray was NOT a suspect, just a witness. Why on earth does a man who is only a witness, hire an attorney? Why does he further have that attorney give interviews in his name and on his behalf, instead of doing interviews himself?


Even though they weren’t giving up on MJ yet (since they worked on him for an hour at the hospital), the ambulance that left his house had no sirens or lights. An ambulance in an emergency medical situation, always has sirens and lights.


During the memorial Kenny Ortega said MJ had been there dancing less than a week ago. But at the memorial MJ had been dead for two weeks. Now clearly this could be him misspeaking, but no stone unturned.


Dr. Murray was slated to accompany MJ to London, but he’s not licensed to practice medicine there.


The LAFD fire chief in an interview with a BBC reporter kept referring to MJ as “the patient” from the 911 call. He refused to name him because of “HIPPA” violations. Well by this time the ENTIRE WORLD knew it was Michael Jackson. There is no harm in him stating “Michael Jackson” but he repeated “the patient” over and over and said he couldn’t even confirm his identity because of HIPPA violations. WTFever. The woman interviewing him also repeatedly said something about them picking up Jackson from the place he was practicing instead of his rented home (which is the official story) and he never corrected her. (Later he did mention Michael Jackson by name in an interview with CNN. HIPPA laws extend into death, so why exactly is he breaking HIPPA now when he was so paranoid about it before?)


In interviews the entire family continues to refer to MJ in present tense. One of the most striking examples is La Toya rolling down her car window and saying something about how they all appreciate the fan support, and Michael does too. Oh does he? What an odd statement to make. Even Paris’ speech at the memorial, moving as it was, is in present tense. “I just wanted to say that ever since I was born, Daddy has been the best daddy you could possibly imagine. And I just want to say that I love him so much.” That’s all present tense. Paris isn’t lying. She also is probably genuinely emotional considering how she worries about her daddy.


AFTER many people, including a site getting a lot of media attention called Michael Jackson Hoax death, whines and complains for weeks about how there only seems to be one photograph of Dr. Murray and no video… only THEN does TMZ and a couple of other places conveniently start to show new photographs and even a video (which there is no way to tell is Dr. Murray at all.) Are they responding to our suspicions? Why are they just now all of a sudden producing a few extra photos and videos? Even so, why are papparazzi not camped out at this man’s house if they know the location? Why don’t get get more photographs and video of him? Does this seem very likely?


Diprivan is not a common drug for recreational drug use. It’s a rather bizarre drug to abuse. Nor is it a drug that makes you feel at all rested (as you dont’ get REM) It is a completely pointless drug for anyone with an “addiction” or “need for sleep” to take. Further, a story has been floating around about how MJ had an anasthesiologist on tour with him years ago. This makes NO sense given what is factually true about these drugs… namely that you CANNOT get rest. he wouldn’t have been able to perform. This sounds to me like another hyperbaric chamber or elephant man bones story. Also, people who take Diprivan long term develop amnesia and motor coordination problems. MJ researched everything,which is probably why he was so into organic foods. Why would he not research something more dangerous he was putting into his body? And why would he put it into his body if it could affect his ability to dance? How could MJ have done the tours where supposedly he was on Diprivan, if he didn’t get rest PLUS was going to have motor coordination problems? Has anyone SEEN MJ dance? It’s not like Ozzy jumping around on stage.


The LAPD didn’t mark the house off as a crime scene and the family was in and out of the house for FOUR days before the LAPD thought “hey maybe we’ve got a crime scene here.” It is said that the family took things out, but they just as easily could have planted things. (such as drugs and such that were later found.) If the family was taking a bunch of things out… why would they leave the drugs in? If they suspected foul play why would they compromise the crime scene?


Dr. Murray’s office and home were only RECENTLY raided, after a MONTH from the death. Shouldn’t that have been done sooner? Won’t all evidence be gone?


Supposedly files were removed from Dr. Murray’s office on the day of MJ’s death 3 hours before the hospital was called, which calls into question how long Dr. Murray waited to call the paramedics… but…


The picture in the ambulance doesn’t look like a long-dead MJ. It doesn’t even look like a dead MJ (he’s got a popping vein in his forehead. You don’t get that on a dead body.) In fact… the MJ in the ambulance doesn’t even look like MJ circa 2009, but rather like MJ circa 1995 which is another time when he had a collapse and was rushed to the doctor. Could the photograph be photoshopped with earlier images not used by the same tabloid reporter?


The tabloid reporter from TMZ who got the “last photo” of Michael Jackson, just happens to be a licensed EMT and wants to quit the paps and go to medical school. That photo sure would pay the way for that.


After the death Joe Jackson in an interview pimped his new record label and said the kids were doing “great.” A little odd, no? How would these kids be doing great? He also claimed Omer Bhatti was MJ’s son and that he knew MJ had a secret son. Omer Bhatti has denied he is MJ’s kid. Even though admitting to such a thing would help his music career. (Omer’s)


TMZ seems to be the first on the scene for EVERY story. They scoop all other major news outlets. Who is feeding them?


There are MANY conflicting reports about MJ’s death. He died in the bedroom, he died in the doctor’s room. Prince witnessed it, not one witnessed it. MJ was already dead when the paramedics got there, MJ was revived and was in a coma, MJ was “worked on” for over an hour, MJ’s body was warm (incidentally a medical fact about cardiac arrest is his body would have been cold), MJ’s body was cold, MJ looked peaceful like he was sleeping, MJ’s face had been battered by CPR (huh?), The casket was closed at the memorial because the face had been battered by CPR… but the kids saw him in the private memorial, he’s been cremated, no he hasn’t, the body is missing, the body hasn’t been released to the family yet, the body has been released, the body is in a secret location, and on and on and on and on. There is not ONE fact about MJ’s “death” that anyone can agree on. (And yes, at this point I”m putting “death” in parenthesis until any two people on the face of the planet can get their story straight.)


On July 6th, 2002 MJ gave a speech that was basically about bringing Sony and especially Tommy Mottolla down, who MJ described as an evil man, the devil, and a racist. (Mottolla reportedly did some scary shit to Mariah Carey his ex-wife.) The very NEXT DAY, July 7th, 2002 is the date of the will that has been brought up as MJ’s will. Clearly the man feared for his life then. Is there any reason to suspect that fear was unfounded or died away? He also believed Sony was in some way involved with the child molestation trial. After all, how could MJ defend his 50% stake in the Sony catalog if he was in prison? (People have claimed MJ was broke, but he made hundreds of millions of dollars a year from his holdings in the Sony catalog. How can he be broke or in debt?)


The custody case is being settled out of court after many delays. (This may or may not have anything to do with anything. But there is a lot of suspicion surrounding the many delays in many areas of this situation.) It’s been reported that the custody to Katherine Jackson is temporary. many believe custody will eventually be transferred over to Rowe. But why would it? If MJ is alive, the custody to Katherine is temporary for obvious reasons.


MJ rehired attorney John Branca three weeks before his “death.” He also rehired several others like Frank Dileo and Karen Faye.


The 911 operator HUNG UP on the caller saying to call back if they needed anymore help. That is 100% against 911 policy. They have to stay on the line until the paramedics get there.


Within a few hours of the cardiac arrest, all of Jackson’s staff was fired. (Why wouldn’t they keep them on for security detail for the house instead of ransacking it and screwing up a possible crime scene?) In fact, most of the staff doesn’t seem to have seen much of anything and firing them would be a good way to keep them FROM seeing anything. They were removed from the premises immediately and then fired very soon after that.


La Toya has been interviewed by Tabloids (for money) where she’s said MJ was murdered and she will reveal by who if the police don’t. Joe and Katherine have also stated they believe there is foul play. Why wouldn’t La Toya just go to the police?


There were no drugs found in MJ’s home until the second search. (after family members have been there.)


Conrad Murray had been Jackson’s doctor for 11 days.


At the end of the memorial: “I’m here and I’m alive forever” flashed on the screen with a picture of MJ. As well as the end picture from Liberian Girl where MJ was directing a video unseen by the participants.


A mysterious source has released the pepsi footage of MJ’s burn accident from 1984. Pepsi is reportedly outraged by the leak. Michael Jackson had the only footage. Who released this footage and why? And oh hey… it supports the drug theory!


TMZ released the 911 call first. How did they get it? They also released the “place with no name” unreleased song clip.


In yet another “contradictory story” MJ’s chef, after a FULL MONTH comes out with her story of the day of MJ’s death. Supposedly Prince was called in to witness the CPR. Now one could say this is very suspicious and maybe Dr. Murray was trying to build a defense showing he tried to save MJ. But… if this kid really witnessed this, wouldn’t he have been traumatized? And is there any evidence he was traumatized at the memorial? And what about Joe Jackson a few days after the death saying the kids were doing “great.” Would Prince be “doing great” if he’d witnessed such a traumatizing scene? So then why is the chef lying about this? To the Associated Press of all places (If you’re going to lie, why not lie to the Tabloids and make money?) On top of all this, we have yet another witness (the chef), saying there was no evidence of MJ abusing RX drugs. hmmmm. So many conflicting stories.


The Michael Jackson Memorial is listed on IMDB.com and not only the singers and speakers but the family and Michael Jackson himself is listed as “Cast” A bit of an odd way to classify it.


When Jermaine sang “Smile” at the memorial, he mixed some lyrics up… instead of “Hide any trace of sadness” he sang “Hide any trace of gladness.” and “light up your face with sadness.” If it’s just a slip of the tongue, then how did he slip on BOTH lyrics? And completely reverse them? This can clearly be heard in the Memorial footage.


This Is It is listed in IMDB for release date October 30th, but the page was created on July 6th, 2009, one day before the memorial. This was before they had supposedly spoken to a judge to get permission to do it, before they’d supposedly sold the rights. The reality is, they moved on this deal IMMEDIATELY when MJ “died.” They did not wait and mourn. The wheels are already set in motion and the deal is already done at least one day before the memorial.


Everyone is speaking of MJ in present tense that is being interviewed. Anyone who didn’t know MJ was dead certainly wouldn’t know it after most of these interviews either.


In the 911 call, the caller says that they are calling from 100 North Carolwood drive, Los Angeles California, 90077. Now if you go to googlemaps and check that out… there is a business at that address called RNA construction. The number listed with it is disconnected.


Remember how none of the friends of MJ, the real close friends, showed up at the memorial? All making excuses about how sad they were or whatever? Quincy Jones couldn’t go because it was so sad after James Brown. Well James Brown died three years ago. I mean come on. Then Macaulay Culkin has been pretty radio silent and didn’t even attend the memorial. He hasn’t even said anything about MJ. (Neither has Oprah.) Culkin’s sister recently died so we could cut him some slack. That’s gotta be tragic… but.. John Hughes… director of Home Alone recently passed, Culkin is paying tribute to him… yet he has pretty much ignored MJ’s death. WHY? That’s a little on the strange side. They were friends for over nearly 20 years.


Kenny Ortega and several of the dancers from the This Is It tour have made bizarre and cryptic comments on their Twitter accounts, obliquely referencing this project after MJ’s death. They are a little too giddy. The dancers still have their contracts (2 year contracts, which indicate whatever was being planned was more than just 50 shows.) The dancers are also under special agreements where they can’t talk about certain things. One of the dancers named Timor, talked about MJ on a dutch television program after the death. He kept speaking about MJ in present tense saying things like: “He loves life” Even the host noticed all this present tense talk, got a puzzled look on his face and asked WHY he was speaking about him in present tense… he said something like MJ was in his heart or something. He also has a twitter account in which he mentions getting on a plane and going to LA and about it being a small step for him, but a big step for the world. Oh really? Don’t you have to be a meglomaniac to think anything you’re doing in LA is a big step for the world? Timor didn’t strike me as a meglomaniac.


During a Larry King Live interview (another one), Jermaine continues to talk about MJ in present tense, saying things like “he reads everything.” Oh really? Does he? It’s been 6 weeks, and Jermaine and everyone else talks about MJ as if he’s still alive. Anyone who didn’t know MJ had died, wouldn’t know it now either.


There was no insurance on MJ with AEG for death supposedly, it was only for non-performance.


MJ supposedly had a 3 million dollar life insurance policy. (Why for so little when Heath Ledgers was for 10 million and MJ is WAY bigger than Heath Ledger. Isn’t 3 million dollars about like a roll of quarters to MJ?) We’ve heard stories in legitimate newspapers that someone let the life insurance lapse… in which case it wouldn’t be paid out. But then we hear other reports that the life insurance has paid out… due to the apparently supernatural powers of Branca and McLain to make it happen. In a situation like this, an insurance company will do everything they can not to have to pay out. There is no way they paid out before things are all settled. Not buying it. Sorry. Not only this, but supposedly the reports where the life insurance was paid is in SEALED court documents that no one can read. IF Life insurance paid 3 million, isn’t it MORE likely the life insurance was just cashed out… the money that was paid into it? You can cash out your life insurance if you’re still alive. And NO insurance company is going to pay out with so many questions swirling around about the death. They have big time attorneys too. John Branca is brilliant, but he wouldn’t intimidate an insurance company.



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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 23, 2009, 01:44:54 PM
I saw that one already but good job posting this!
This is meaningfull information for all of us :mrgreen:
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  • on: November 23, 2009, 02:05:07 PM
Just a point. If youve read "The Magic and the Madness" it says that Michael himself put out the rumors about the Elephant Man bones and the Hyperberic Chamber...that fooled the media.

So this is just on a MUCH larger scale. Maybe?

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  • on: November 23, 2009, 02:16:18 PM
Quote from: "XspeechlessX"
Just a point. If youve read "The Magic and the Madness" it says that Michael himself put out the rumors about the Elephant Man bones and the Hyperberic Chamber...that fooled the media.

So this is just on a MUCH larger scale. Maybe?

L.O.V.E

True! I've seen the movie "Michael Jackson - Man in the mirror" And in that movie it's explained that Mikey never went to rehab either! He had to get away from all the pressure of all the lawsuits against him (during his child molestation stuff *still those people who did that to him make me sick*) It was Elizabeth Taylor who was worried about him, because he didn't eat well, didn't sleep well and she said you've got to get away for a while let us solve this for you " I know something, you're in "rehab" " Don't know if any of you saw this movie and knows what I'm talking about?
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  • on: November 23, 2009, 02:28:45 PM
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Quote from: "XspeechlessX"
Just a point. If youve read "The Magic and the Madness" it says that Michael himself put out the rumors about the Elephant Man bones and the Hyperberic Chamber...that fooled the media.

So this is just on a MUCH larger scale. Maybe?

L.O.V.E

True! I've seen the movie "Michael Jackson - Man in the mirror" And in that movie it's explained that Mikey never went to rehab either! He had to get away from all the pressure of all the lawsuits against him (during his child molestation stuff *still those people who did that to him make me sick*) It was Elizabeth Taylor who was worried about him, because he didn't eat well, didn't sleep well and she said you've got to get away for a while let us solve this for you " I know something, you're in "rehab" " Don't know if any of you saw this movie and knows what I'm talking about?


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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 23, 2009, 03:34:11 PM
Ooh I do like a good recap. It gets me all fired up again!

Earlier today I had a 'wobble'. I just thought OMG what IF?!?!

Now I've read that I'm back to my normal self. If he is dead then it was murder and we will seek justice. :evil:

Thanks for that it makes really good reading.

xxx melanie xxx
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 23, 2009, 04:40:10 PM
Thanks for posting this! It helps when all the facts are written in one place... Even people who don't believe in hoax couldn't deny this..
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 23, 2009, 07:47:50 PM
Wow, I didn't know there is a movie called Man in the Mirror.
I didn't even know he played in Men in black part 2
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 23, 2009, 08:10:09 PM
Isn't that the movie with Flex as MJ?  If so, I've got that one!  Didn't really notice the part you mentioned but now, I'll definitely rewatch it so I can find it.  MIB 2...don't remember seeing that one either.  Guess I'll be going to the library to check that one out  :lol:
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 23, 2009, 08:38:34 PM
LOL! HE SO ISNT DEAD LMAO.
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 23, 2009, 09:03:02 PM
Add this to the weird list!

This is a strange statement to make especially from a physician:
"His personal physician, Conrad Murray, stated he found Jackson in his room, not breathing but with a faint pulse, and administered CPR to no avail."

What is Cardiac Arrest?
Cardiac arrest is the sudden, abrupt loss of heart function.

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter. ... ifier=4481

It is not possible to have a faint pulse if your heart has suddenly and completely stopped!
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 23, 2009, 09:19:33 PM
Thanks for sharing this! This is awesome. Now I finally have something to show to someone who wants to know why I believe he is alive.
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 23, 2009, 11:16:23 PM
@Serenitys_Dream take a look at your sig pic...there appears to be a face in the middle of that black t-shirt.  Talk about weird.  Nice sig btw.  Thought my eyes were playing tricks w/ me when I saw this "pop up" in the vid during Janet's VMA performance.   :lol:  Good to know someone got a still shot of it :)
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 24, 2009, 12:10:52 AM
Thankyou for this, makes life a lot easier lol


 :)
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 24, 2009, 01:18:20 AM
Quote from: "MJsSuperflyPYT"
@Serenitys_Dream take a look at your sig pic...there appears to be a face in the middle of that black t-shirt.  Talk about weird.  Nice sig btw.  Thought my eyes were playing tricks w/ me when I saw this "pop up" in the vid during Janet's VMA performance.   :lol:  Good to know someone got a still shot of it :)

I know right...that's the whole point of the picture!  :lol:

By the way that is my face you see on his chest  ;)   8-)
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 24, 2009, 01:31:03 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
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@Serenitys_Dream take a look at your sig pic...there appears to be a face in the middle of that black t-shirt.  Talk about weird.  Nice sig btw.  Thought my eyes were playing tricks w/ me when I saw this "pop up" in the vid during Janet's VMA performance.   :lol:  Good to know someone got a still shot of it :)

I know right...that's the whole point of the picture!  :lol:

By the way that is my face you see on his chest  ;)   8-)

Aahhh...got'cha...veerrryyy clever :mrgreen:
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 24, 2009, 02:20:06 AM
Quote from: "MJsSuperflyPYT"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "MJsSuperflyPYT"
@Serenitys_Dream take a look at your sig pic...there appears to be a face in the middle of that black t-shirt.  Talk about weird.  Nice sig btw.  Thought my eyes were playing tricks w/ me when I saw this "pop up" in the vid during Janet's VMA performance.   :lol:  Good to know someone got a still shot of it :)

I know right...that's the whole point of the picture!  :lol:

By the way that is my face you see on his chest  ;)   8-)

Aahhh...got'cha...veerrryyy clever :mrgreen:
Really it is a screen shot from I took off a youtube video...I am only joking! :lol:
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 24, 2009, 10:03:04 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Really it is a screen shot from I took off a youtube video...I am only joking! :lol:

 :lol:   8-)
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 24, 2009, 10:32:07 AM
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Isn't that the movie with Flex as MJ?  If so, I've got that one!  Didn't really notice the part you mentioned but now, I'll definitely rewatch it so I can find it.  MIB 2...don't remember seeing that one either.  Guess I'll be going to the library to check that one out  :lol:

uh yes i believe so! it wasnt played by mj himself, but its a very interesting movie!
It's called: Michael jackson the movie man in the mirror its on youtube ;) http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTX-Ndy0810&feature=PlayList&p=4A56BC933CEA01D7&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=22

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KItSNUQ ... 7&index=24 this is the part of liz taylor i've mentioned
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 24, 2009, 04:19:33 PM
Thanks for posting
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 24, 2009, 04:25:26 PM
Thanks for posting this! I feel renewed!  :D
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 24, 2009, 04:57:16 PM
Thanks for posting, GREAT SUMMARY...
To add to list - No landlines at house (security) but they had landlines at Neverland (why change)
Voice in the background during 911 call (says 1 minute left I think)
Contradictory reports of what Michael looked like "frail old man", veins completely collapsed, couldn't get an IV site, riddled with injection marks - versus ambulance photo (hardly frail old man - even though it's not real  :lol: ), evidence of our own eyes during TII when we saw parts of his arms, his neck etc., no marks.
Contradictory and increasingly doubtful/discredited claims from doctors approached by Michael for drugs eg Susan Etok....

I am trying to convince a friend at work - the ambulance footage reeled him in!!- this should do the trick THANKS  :D  :D
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 25, 2009, 08:28:53 PM
Michael Jackson Fakes Death, Goes Into Hiding written on the day, as a joke, but why does it resemble what we finding out?

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm? ... e=s3i55169

It all sounds stupid, but how much FACT is in there?
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 26, 2009, 11:54:04 AM
Michael Jackson Buys Coffin For Neverland Ranch
The Sun reports Michael Jackson has splashed out $34,000 on a gold-plated coffin. Jacko picked the ornate design from a catalogue after visiting an undertaker in Las Vegas. He then asked shocked workers to ship the box to his Neverland Ranch in California, and many speculate it was purchased for his own funeral.

http://popdirt.com/michael-jackson-buys ... anch/7886/
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Re: The Weird List

  • on: November 26, 2009, 12:19:20 PM
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Michael Jackson Buys Coffin For Neverland Ranch
The Sun reports Michael Jackson has splashed out $34,000 on a gold-plated coffin. Jacko picked the ornate design from a catalogue after visiting an undertaker in Las Vegas. He then asked shocked workers to ship the box to his Neverland Ranch in California, and many speculate it was purchased for his own funeral.

http://popdirt.com/michael-jackson-buys ... anch/7886/

thats a funny one cos in the bashit interview he said he didnt want to die so why buy a coffin and keep it in your home
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