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Amazing.Where on earth are you finding these?That's wonderful that Michael gave Little Richard the rights to his music back. So generous. Sad(possibly correct?) what Mr. Gregory said about people trying to kill Michael and make it look like an accident or a suicide...Eerie. He's extremely wise and posed some great questions at the end.Is there a such thing as 3rd degree murder??? :? What the heck?And the FBI didn't belong in all of that.Makes me wonder exactly what is going on.....Is this higher up than just Sony, Mottola, et al??? :? Thanks for posting this.
Quote from: "virgo75"Amazing.Where on earth are you finding these?That's wonderful that Michael gave Little Richard the rights to his music back. So generous. Sad(possibly correct?) what Mr. Gregory said about people trying to kill Michael and make it look like an accident or a suicide...Eerie. He's extremely wise and posed some great questions at the end.Is there a such thing as 3rd degree murder??? :? What the heck?And the FBI didn't belong in all of that.Makes me wonder exactly what is going on.....Is this higher up than just Sony, Mottola, et al??? :? Thanks for posting this.I've listened to Dick. He can interesting. He also has it stuck in his head that one of the first presidents was black. That's not true..[so] Not Pres. Washington or after but before. There were 16 presidents of the continental congress prior to Pres. Washington.Anyway, all these people know things and the players. They really can't be pointing fingers and naming names and calling people out. It would not serve a purpose at this point. What they can do is try to let you know in their way that there's more to the story. Remember, many years ago too [just thought of this] that Ramona Baine [sp?] when she was with Michael made a statement on his behalf that he had undercovered a problem [people involved in his business affairs] that he wasn't happy about at all. I don't have a link to that. Anywho.........
Quote from: "simplyme"Quote from: "virgo75"Amazing.Where on earth are you finding these?That's wonderful that Michael gave Little Richard the rights to his music back. So generous. Sad(possibly correct?) what Mr. Gregory said about people trying to kill Michael and make it look like an accident or a suicide...Eerie. He's extremely wise and posed some great questions at the end.Is there a such thing as 3rd degree murder??? :? What the heck?And the FBI didn't belong in all of that.Makes me wonder exactly what is going on.....Is this higher up than just Sony, Mottola, et al??? :? Thanks for posting this.I've listened to Dick. He can interesting. He also has it stuck in his head that one of the first presidents was black. That's not true..[so] Not Pres. Washington or after but before. There were 16 presidents of the continental congress prior to Pres. Washington.Anyway, all these people know things and the players. They really can't be pointing fingers and naming names and calling people out. It would not serve a purpose at this point. What they can do is try to let you know in their way that there's more to the story. Remember, many years ago too [just thought of this] that Ramona Baine [sp?] when she was with Michael made a statement on his behalf that he had undercovered a problem [people involved in his business affairs] that he wasn't happy about at all. I don't have a link to that. Anywho.........Truth be told - The REAL history of the "United States" doesn't start with George Washington (or even John Henson - the man that has been touted as the 1st President who was supposed to be of Moor decent), the Articles of Confederation, or the Constitution. The REAL history of the "United States" starts with the Native Americans who lived here before being invaded, enslaved, and nearly wiped out through cultural and physical genocide. The "United States" was an established land with a population, culture, and leaders before the Mayflower. The vast majority of these people were brown skinned Native Ameicans.The "history" books available to us now have been so chopped and screwed that they're basically fiction.And most that are supposed to be giving the "history" of the United States, starts with the Mayflower or somewhere in Europe.That's like a "history" book on South Africa starting with the Dutch and Afrikaners. :roll: (sorry, I get a little caught up with history :oops: )Anyway, I agree 100% with what you said in the large print.I wrote something similar in another thread where people were trying to say that the family should be shouting names from rooftops and giving out all of the information that they know. They can give out some, and there can be "leaks" but coming full out with it could jeapordize any chance of justice or safety for everyone involved.
Quote from: "virgo75"Quote from: "simplyme"Quote from: "virgo75"Amazing.Where on earth are you finding these?That's wonderful that Michael gave Little Richard the rights to his music back. So generous. Sad(possibly correct?) what Mr. Gregory said about people trying to kill Michael and make it look like an accident or a suicide...Eerie. He's extremely wise and posed some great questions at the end.Is there a such thing as 3rd degree murder??? :? What the heck?And the FBI didn't belong in all of that.Makes me wonder exactly what is going on.....Is this higher up than just Sony, Mottola, et al??? :? Thanks for posting this.I've listened to Dick. He can interesting. He also has it stuck in his head that one of the first presidents was black. That's not true..[so] Not Pres. Washington or after but before. There were 16 presidents of the continental congress prior to Pres. Washington.Anyway, all these people know things and the players. They really can't be pointing fingers and naming names and calling people out. It would not serve a purpose at this point. What they can do is try to let you know in their way that there's more to the story. Remember, many years ago too [just thought of this] that Ramona Baine [sp?] when she was with Michael made a statement on his behalf that he had undercovered a problem [people involved in his business affairs] that he wasn't happy about at all. I don't have a link to that. Anywho.........Truth be told - The REAL history of the "United States" doesn't start with George Washington (or even John Henson - the man that has been touted as the 1st President who was supposed to be of Moor decent), the Articles of Confederation, or the Constitution. The REAL history of the "United States" starts with the Native Americans who lived here before being invaded, enslaved, and nearly wiped out through cultural and physical genocide. The "United States" was an established land with a population, culture, and leaders before the Mayflower. The vast majority of these people were brown skinned Native Ameicans.The "history" books available to us now have been so chopped and screwed that they're basically fiction.And most that are supposed to be giving the "history" of the United States, starts with the Mayflower or somewhere in Europe.That's like a "history" book on South Africa starting with the Dutch and Afrikaners. :roll: (sorry, I get a little caught up with history :oops: )Anyway, I agree 100% with what you said in the large print.I wrote something similar in another thread where people were trying to say that the family should be shouting names from rooftops and giving out all of the information that they know. They can give out some, and there can be "leaks" but coming full out with it could jeapordize any chance of justice or safety for everyone involved.You're not getting caught up. I mentioned the presidents previous to Washington so people would know what time frame I was talking about. Most people think that Washington was the first president and know little about the different congresses - so I'm playing teacher this morning. Anyway, I'm part Native American [or Indian- makes no difference to me - I'm not the politically correct type]. The plundering that has gone on all over the planet for centuries is a sad tale. Even sadder to me are the entire tribes that were wiped out here. Another piece of history so many don't know as they're only familiar with the most talked about or the 5 "civilized" tribes. I was talking history to someone about 12 years ago - had known this someone forever. Somehow the topic came up and somewhere along the line he said to me "we civilized them" and expounded on that a little with farming techniques, etc. Anyway, when he said "civilized" I saw red. I tell myself it's silly for me to get upset about something that happened so long ago, but I saw red and snapped back [really shoudn't have] , "civilized !..by who's definition?" But anyway, now I'm getting caught up.
Quote from: "simplyme"Quote from: "virgo75"Quote from: "simplyme"Quote from: "virgo75"Amazing.Where on earth are you finding these?That's wonderful that Michael gave Little Richard the rights to his music back. So generous. Sad(possibly correct?) what Mr. Gregory said about people trying to kill Michael and make it look like an accident or a suicide...Eerie. He's extremely wise and posed some great questions at the end.Is there a such thing as 3rd degree murder??? :? What the heck?And the FBI didn't belong in all of that.Makes me wonder exactly what is going on.....Is this higher up than just Sony, Mottola, et al??? :? Thanks for posting this.I've listened to Dick. He can interesting. He also has it stuck in his head that one of the first presidents was black. That's not true..[so] Not Pres. Washington or after but before. There were 16 presidents of the continental congress prior to Pres. Washington.Anyway, all these people know things and the players. They really can't be pointing fingers and naming names and calling people out. It would not serve a purpose at this point. What they can do is try to let you know in their way that there's more to the story. Remember, many years ago too [just thought of this] that Ramona Baine [sp?] when she was with Michael made a statement on his behalf that he had undercovered a problem [people involved in his business affairs] that he wasn't happy about at all. I don't have a link to that. Anywho.........Truth be told - The REAL history of the "United States" doesn't start with George Washington (or even John Henson - the man that has been touted as the 1st President who was supposed to be of Moor decent), the Articles of Confederation, or the Constitution. The REAL history of the "United States" starts with the Native Americans who lived here before being invaded, enslaved, and nearly wiped out through cultural and physical genocide. The "United States" was an established land with a population, culture, and leaders before the Mayflower. The vast majority of these people were brown skinned Native Ameicans.The "history" books available to us now have been so chopped and screwed that they're basically fiction.And most that are supposed to be giving the "history" of the United States, starts with the Mayflower or somewhere in Europe.That's like a "history" book on South Africa starting with the Dutch and Afrikaners. :roll: (sorry, I get a little caught up with history :oops: )Anyway, I agree 100% with what you said in the large print.I wrote something similar in another thread where people were trying to say that the family should be shouting names from rooftops and giving out all of the information that they know. They can give out some, and there can be "leaks" but coming full out with it could jeapordize any chance of justice or safety for everyone involved.You're not getting caught up. I mentioned the presidents previous to Washington so people would know what time frame I was talking about. Most people think that Washington was the first president and know little about the different congresses - so I'm playing teacher this morning. Anyway, I'm part Native American [or Indian- makes no difference to me - I'm not the politically correct type]. The plundering that has gone on all over the planet for centuries is a sad tale. Even sadder to me are the entire tribes that were wiped out here. Another piece of history so many don't know as they're only familiar with the most talked about or the 5 "civilized" tribes. I was talking history to someone about 12 years ago - had known this someone forever. Somehow the topic came up and somewhere along the line he said to me "we civilized them" and expounded on that a little with farming techniques, etc. Anyway, when he said "civilized" I saw red. I tell myself it's silly for me to get upset about something that happened so long ago, but I saw red and snapped back [really shoudn't have] , "civilized !..by who's definition?" But anyway, now I'm getting caught up.my grandmother would always say "the Indians were not a wild people at all, but when they realized the people they had befriended were stealing their land (indians considered their land their sacred home) they went wild as a reaction to theivery..."
I've listened to Dick. He can interesting. He also has it stuck in his head that one of the first presidents was black. That's not true..[so] Not Pres. Washington or after but before. There were 16 presidents of the continental congress prior to Pres. Washington.
You're not getting caught up. I mentioned the presidents previous to Washington so people would know what time frame I was talking about. Most people think that Washington was the first president and know little about the different congresses - so I'm playing teacher this morning. Anyway, I'm part Native American [or Indian- makes no difference to me - I'm not the politically correct type]. The plundering that has gone on all over the planet for centuries is a sad tale. Even sadder to me are the entire tribes that were wiped out here. Another piece of history so many don't know as they're only familiar with the most talked about or the 5 "civilized" tribes. I was talking history to someone about 12 years ago - had known this someone forever. Somehow the topic came up and somewhere along the line he said to me "we civilized them" and expounded on that a little with farming techniques, etc. Anyway, when he said "civilized" I saw red. I tell myself it's silly for me to get upset about something that happened so long ago, but I saw red and snapped back [really shoudn't have] , "civilized !..by who's definition?" But anyway, now I'm getting caught up.
Quote from: "simplyme"You're not getting caught up. I mentioned the presidents previous to Washington so people would know what time frame I was talking about. Most people think that Washington was the first president and know little about the different congresses - so I'm playing teacher this morning. Anyway, I'm part Native American [or Indian- makes no difference to me - I'm not the politically correct type]. The plundering that has gone on all over the planet for centuries is a sad tale. Even sadder to me are the entire tribes that were wiped out here. Another piece of history so many don't know as they're only familiar with the most talked about or the 5 "civilized" tribes. I was talking history to someone about 12 years ago - had known this someone forever. Somehow the topic came up and somewhere along the line he said to me "we civilized them" and expounded on that a little with farming techniques, etc. Anyway, when he said "civilized" I saw red. I tell myself it's silly for me to get upset about something that happened so long ago, but I saw red and snapped back [really shoudn't have] , "civilized !..by who's definition?" But anyway, now I'm getting caught up.Thanks for understanding(and playing teacher).A lot of people don't know anything about the history of the US before the Mayflower.This is what's taught in US schools - I don't know about what is taught in other countries.{sarcasm alert}Of course your friend is correct about civilizing them.Because nothing's more "civilized" than killing millions of people, brainwashing their children, and robbing them of their culture, language, heritage, and pride. :evil:
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