Medics triggered MJ's heartbeat at UCLA

[Raven]

According to News Of The World - (tabloid, not the best of sources) Medics at UCLA managed to trigger a pulse for ten minutes:

"By James Desborough, 28/03/2010

MICHAEL JACKSON was almost brought back from the dead, the News of the World can exclusively reveal.

Battling medics managed to restart his heart a full hour after he "flat-lined" following a cardiac arrest last June.

Hospital docs triggered a weak pulse for TEN MINUTES but it could not be sustained.

The incredible development emerged in a lawsuit filed by the pop superstar's father Joe against Conrad Murray, Jacko's personal doctor.

Murray is already charged with involuntary manslaughter over Jacko's death.

Joe's detailed 13-page document claims Murray caused his son's death by giving him drugs and not getting him to hospital sooner. The lawsuit also states Murray:

FAILED to tell paramedics he had given the singer Propofol, the anaesthetic coroners ruled killed the King Of Pop.
OBSTRUCTED justice by giving FIVE different versions of events about the star's death.
ORDERED bodyguards to clear up and hide the Propofol bottles before paramedics were called to the scene in Los Angeles' Hollywood Hills.
LIED to Richelle Cooper, the hospital doctor who took over the stricken star's treatment, telling her Jacko had not been ill when he had pneumonia, bronchitis and brain swelling.

Last night angry Joe, 81, said: "This evidence is damning. They should lock him up and throw away the key. It's disgusting what happened here."

A family insider told us: "Murray's delays and lies cost Michael his life. Why has he not been charged with murder? He failed to do his job and willingly gave Michael the drugs that killed him.

"This lawsuit is not about what we think, it's filled with documentary evidence from those at the scene, who saw what Murray did."

The suit was compiled from police and coroners' documents and evidence from Dr Cooper, the respected head of the UCLA Medical Center Emergency Department.

As we revealed last week, paramedics declared 50-year- old Jackson dead at his home but he was still rushed to hospital, arriving at UCLA at 1.21pm on June 25.

Miraculously in the emergency room Dr Cooper and her team, with their superior equipment, established "cardiac rhythm." Hospital reports say the heartbeat "appeared to be wide and slow in the 40s."

The lawsuit explains: "The nurses and physicians at UCLA detected a weak femoral pulse and cardiac activity.

"At 13:22 hours he showed cardiac activity. At 13:33 he showed a weak ventricular rhythm (contracting of the lower heart chambers).

"At 13:52 he had a pulse of 53 beats per minute."

At 14:05 doctors inserted a balloon pump up through the star's leg to his heart valve entrance, hoping to kick-start normal heart activity. The report goes on: "His diastolic blood pressure (the pressure between heartbeats) went from 20 to approximately 40 at times and sometimes to 60.

"Despite these efforts, Michael Jackson did not regain a spontaneous pulse or heartbeat. Michael was pronounced dead at 2:26 pm."

The exact time of Jacko's Propofol-induced cardiac arrest is unsure, but expert medical analysis obtained for the lawsuit suggests he was actually dead at 11am.

A report by Dr Cooper, filed the day after Jacko's death, is among the most damning parts of the lawsuit against Murray. It shows he did not tell her about his daily Propofol injections.

Dr Cooper wrote: "By report of Dr Murray the patient had been working long hours but had not been ill.

"The only medications reported were Valium and Flomax. There is no history of drug use by the patient as reported by Dr Murray."

Last week we revealed Murray also lied to paramedics about what drugs he had given Jackson.

The lawsuit was filed by Brian Oxman, the attorney who represented Jacko at his 2005 child molestation trial.

Oxman insists Murray has told FIVE different stories about Jacko's drug intake. The suit claims: "He concealed his reckless and deadly use of Propofol for the purpose of protecting himself from his improper use of medications for Michael Jackson when the life of his patient was in jeopardy.

"Three times the defendant falsely stated the nature of the drugs used by and which he administered to Michael."

The suit then claims Murray altered his story a further two times about what and when he gave his patient over a few days last June.

To make matters worse for Murray the lawsuit confirms reports that bodyguard Alberto Alvarez, who raised the alarm, was told to clean up the death scene. It states: "Alvarez told police that before he called 911 defendant instructed him to conceal bottles of Propofol and place them in a bag.

"In an outrageous departure from the standard of care, defendant stopped giving CPR and cleaned up the room so the medications would not be discovered.

"Defendant placed the previously unused wires of a pulse oximeter on Michael Jackson's fingers.

"Alberto Alvarez told police defendant asked him to call 911 only after the drugs were concealed."

The suit also says hours before Jacko's death, Murray was leering at strippers.

The lawsuit continues: "Prior to treating Michael Jackson, defendant was at a strip club called Sam's Hof Brau where he had been drinking.

"It was reckless for him to drink prior to administering anaesthesia to Michael Jackson. He concealed his conduct from Michael Jackson."

Among a huge quantity of powerful medicines found at Jacko's home were 19 tubes of hydroquinone and 18 tubes of Benoquin, both of which are used to whiten skin.

The lawsuit also confirms the singer - once famous for his energetic dancing - was a weak, exhausted, stressed out drug addict in the days before his death.

Murray has 90 days to respond to it.

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It supposedly is in the files Joe Jackson ordered to file a wrongful death suit: possibly the bombshell he was mentioning earlier.

[virgo75]

How does News of The World get info in the UK before we get it in the US?   :?

Did Joe make his statement yet?
Did I miss it?

[billiejean17]

How does News of The World get info in the UK before we get it in the US?   :?

Did Joe make his statement yet?
Did I miss it?

I'm dammed if i know, and i live in the UK?

[tabloidburn]

royal tabloid BS!!! alien news!  :mrgreen:

[ForstAMoon]

This is very interesting:

FAILED to tell paramedics he had given the singer Propofol, the anaesthetic coroners ruled killed the King Of Pop.
OBSTRUCTED justice by giving FIVE different versions of events about the star's death.
ORDERED bodyguards to clear up and hide the Propofol bottles before paramedics were called to the scene in Los Angeles' Hollywood Hills.
LIED to

FOOL

[~Souza~]

And piece by piece...

I bet we will get more stories like that from now on.

[ForeverTrue]

And piece by piece...

I bet we will get more stories like that from now on.

exactly, piece by small piece  

[Zen]

I don't believe in all the tabloids either, but why is this good news that we
will get pieces like this?  Maybe I am living on another planet?   :|

If any of this turns out to be true, then those bodyguards should have almost equal
culpability.  They did not WORK for this doctor.  They were not required to take any
orders from him, much less something of this magnitude as ANY life hanging in the
balance.  :!:

[simplyme]

I don't believe in all the tabloids either, but why is this good news that we
will get pieces like this?  Maybe I am living on another planet?   :|

If any of this turns out to be true, then those bodyguards should have almost equal
culpability.  They did not WORK for this doctor.  They were not required to take any
orders from him, much less something of this magnitude as ANY life hanging in the
balance.  :!:

I think the report is accurate.  This is why there were mixed reports after he got to the
hospital.  Mr. Alverez is blaming himself in part I'm sure.  He looked really bummed at the funeral.  Puts the sensor on his finger after the fact.  Gosh...this man just doesn't think clearly about anything.  Even if the sensor story isn't true, Dr. Murray doesn't see to know what a condom is.  The upside is this...if they had revived Michael he would have had brain damage.  I don't know why the family is calling him a drug addict though, aside from the propofol, those scripts they found were barely touched and some had been sitting around for a while.  So he didn't seem to be a pill popper.  Heck, there's kids today whose parents willingly medicate them with all kinds of junk that's very harmful -ritalin is one.  The substance thought to be tar heroin tested negative -that could have belonged to anyone too.  Calling him a drug addict makes if sound like he was using elicit drugs.

You know I saw a story in the Enquirer [waiting in line didn't buy] Anyone see that = it was two or three weeks ago.  They printed this ridiculous story about a DEA agent coming out with his story.  They even had a picture of him.  For starters, I don't think an undercover agent is going to be flashing his picture in the paper.  Well, briefly his story was this- I don't remember particulars.........The DEA had been watching Michael's house.  All kinds of strange vehicles coming and going.  Named some license plates from various states.  He said something about one of the plates, but I don't recall what.  He said  something like he didn't know who these vehicles belonged to.  It struck me odd that he didn't run the plates.  Anyway, it was a bogus story.  I think it was that same article that showed a diagram of Michael's body riddled with marks and of course didn't bother to say that most of the marks were from attempts to revive him.

[infinatetrinity]

Woooow,just amazing isn't it.This forum mentions we haven't heard a single thing about Joe Jackson and the papers he obtained,while wondering whats up with that then just a couple of days later BAM we now have a tabloid who furnishes the info for us,well what da ya know.Hey what should we ask for next(aside from michael coming back that is)?Maybe we can get another answer popping up on the internet lol...

[Raven]

Well...it does show Michael could well have been revived at the hospital. There is the possibility that after having found out that someone had indeed tried to murder him, it was decided IN the hospital to put him under protection. In that case however, the AR is still a very big hurdle, but could have been forged ofcourse. The AR however does mention the balloon pump.

What I find a bit odd is that
- The family had to go to court to get the medical records. Were they already aware of the regaining of a pulse at the hospital?
- After regaining a pulse and insertion of an aorta balloon pump, he was surprisingly enough declared 'dead' within 20 minutes.
- The 'death' declaration at 14:26 was exactly 2 hours after the ambulance call at 12:26

[Tina K.]

Well...it does show Michael could well have been revived at the hospital. There is the possibility that after having found out that someone had indeed tried to murder him, it was decided IN the hospital to put him under protection. In that case however, the AR is still a very big hurdle, but could have been forged ofcourse. The AR however does mention the balloon pump.

What I find a bit odd is that
- The family had to go to court to get the medical records. Were they already aware of the regaining of a pulse at the hospital?
- After regaining a pulse and insertion of an aorta balloon pump, he was surprisingly enough declared 'dead' within 20 minutes.
- The 'death' declaration at 14:26 was exactly 2 hours after the ambulance call at 12:26

 :lol:  IF he was dead when the paramedics arrived, then there is NO WAY a balloon 2 hours later can make him living again. Diffrent statements all the time, nothing but lies.

[Raven]

Well...it does show Michael could well have been revived at the hospital. There is the possibility that after having found out that someone had indeed tried to murder him, it was decided IN the hospital to put him under protection. In that case however, the AR is still a very big hurdle, but could have been forged ofcourse. The AR however does mention the balloon pump.

What I find a bit odd is that
- The family had to go to court to get the medical records. Were they already aware of the regaining of a pulse at the hospital?
- After regaining a pulse and insertion of an aorta balloon pump, he was surprisingly enough declared 'dead' within 20 minutes.
- The 'death' declaration at 14:26 was exactly 2 hours after the ambulance call at 12:26

 :lol:  IF he was dead when the paramedics arrived, then there is NO WAY a balloon 2 hours later can make him living again. Diffrent statements all the time, nothing but lies.

Exactly, different statements. It's hard to get to the truth in this. But to my knowledge there isn't a reliable source that confirms the paramedics found him dead.

[VeryLittleSusie]

Guys, it doesn't matter what the whole article says. What matters is the subliminal message that is being planted in non-believer's heads:

"brought back from the dead"



But, of course, I might be wrong...  

[simalves]

This is from Jul 2009

When Michael Jackson went into cardiac arrest, rescuers took him to a place known for bringing the dead back to life. A world-renowned surgeon at the UCLA Medical Center has pioneered a way to revive people that most doctors would have long written off, including a woman whose heart had stopped for 2 1/2 hours.

Tested on a few dozen cardiac arrest patients, 80 percent survived. Usually, more than 80 percent perish.

“They took people who were basically dead, not all that different than Michael Jackson, and saved most of them,” said Dr. Lance Becker, an emergency medicine specialist at the University of Pennsylvania and an American Heart Association spokesman.

Could Jackson, too, have been saved?

It’s impossible to know. Doctors at the hospital worked on him for an hour. The UCLA expert, cardiothoracic surgeon Dr. Gerald Buckberg, said he was not personally involved in Jackson’s treatment, and that too little is known about what preceded it.

“We have no idea when he died versus when he was found,” Buckberg said in a telephone interview.

However, the results in other patients show that “the window is wide open to new thinking” about how long people can be successfully resuscitated after their hearts quit beating, Buckberg said. “We can salvage them way beyond the current time frames that are used. We’ve changed the concept of when the heart is dead permanently.”

They call it “the Lazarus syndrome” for the man the Bible says Jesus raised from the dead.

Let’s be clear: No one is saying that people long dead without medical attention can be revived. The lucky ones in Buckberg’s study received quick help, and the reason they suffered cardiac arrest was known and could be fixed: blocked arteries causing a heart attack, in most cases.

Buckberg’s method requires:

_Prompt CPR — rhythmic chest compressions — to maintain blood pressure until the patient gets to a hospital.

_Use of a heart-lung machine to keep blood and oxygen moving through the body while doctors remedy what caused the heart to quiver or stop in the first place, such as a drug overdose or a clogged artery.

_Special procedures and medicines to gradually restore blood and oxygen flow, so a sudden gush does not cause fresh damage.

Without all three elements, patients might suffer brain damage if they survive at all.

“You can save the heart and lose the brain,” Buckberg explained.

UCLA and hospitals in Birmingham, Ala.; Ann Arbor, Mich.; and in Germany tested Buckberg’s method on 34 patients who had been in cardiac arrest for an average of 72 minutes. All had failed resuscitation methods with standard CPR and defibrillation to try to shock their hearts back to beating.

Only seven died. Only two survivors were left with permanent neurological damage. Results were published in 2006 in the journal Resuscitation.

Dr. Constantine Athanasuleas (pronounced uh-than-uh-SOO’-lee-us), a surgeon at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, treated one man in the study who had been in cardiac arrest for about an hour and a half. The man’s wife, a nurse, did CPR until a helicopter brought him to the hospital.

“He was flatlined,” with a heart “as still as your dining room table,” Athanasuleas said.

Doctors put him on a heart-lung machine, whisked him to the catheterization lab to see if he had artery blockages, then did bypass surgery to detour around them.

“The guy went home and was neurologically perfect” at least two years later, the doctor said.

Buckberg treated a woman who had been in cardiac arrest for 2 1/2 hours.

He would not send her to the operating room until her CPR and blood pressure could be maintained so further treatment could be attempted, he said.

Sadly, the woman survived all this but died several weeks later from an infection.

Buckberg has taken his work further in experiments with pigs in cardiac arrest. He deliberately deprived their brains of blood flow for half an hour, then used his resuscitation techniques to bring them back, with normal or near-normal function. Results presented at a heart association conference last fall stunned many, including Dr. Myron Weisfeldt, a cardiologist and chairman of medicine at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine.

“He’s doing extraordinary things. You almost don’t believe the results that he got,” Weisfeldt said of Buckberg. “Most of us carry around in our head that if somebody’s brain is deprived of blood flow for 10 to 15 minutes that we’re just not going to get them back to any useful function. His data suggest it’s possible.”

Doctors in Japan, Taiwan and elsewhere in Asia have tried approaches similar to Buckberg’s with excellent results, said Becker, who is about to try it in Philadelphia.

“It takes training. It takes rethinking” to get doctors to adopt something this new, and funding for bigger studies to prove it works, Buckberg said.

Source: AP

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So why was Michael not saved??? This is what makes me think he actually did survive it.