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MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 05, 2010, 09:50:17 PM
Ok, after reading over some of the post about Murray saying that MJ killed himself. And After reading that Murray said he was on the phone with his girlfriend while Mj was sleeping then left the room WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!!!!! didn't Murray say in the beginning that it took him so long to call 911 because he couldn't find a phone in the house?  looks like someone's lying.
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 05, 2010, 09:54:55 PM
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Ok, after reading over some of the post about Murray saying that MJ killed himself. And After reading that Murray said he was on the phone with his girlfriend while Mj was sleeping then left the room WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!!!!! didn't Murray say in the beginning that it took him so long to call 911 because he couldn't find a phone in the house?  looks like someone's lying.

Actually what CM claimed was that he waited so long to call cause he wasn't sure of the address of Michael's rented mantion, where he was with MJ. He went on saying there were no land line in the house cause Michael had disconnected it as he often did out of fear that people would discover his number. So he said he could not call cause the call would not be traced to a land line and he could not give the 911 dispatcher the adress he was at.

Now that is the lamest stupidest excuse I've ever heard in my life!!! :evil:
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 05, 2010, 09:57:17 PM
Hmmm... I didn't hear that version. From what I've always known is that they had to find a staff member to get a cellphone cause there wasn't one in the house.
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 05, 2010, 10:36:41 PM
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Ok, after reading over some of the post about Murray saying that MJ killed himself. And After reading that Murray said he was on the phone with his girlfriend while Mj was sleeping then left the room WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!!!!! didn't Murray say in the beginning that it took him so long to call 911 because he couldn't find a phone in the house?  looks like someone's lying.

Actually what CM claimed was that he waited so long to call cause he wasn't sure of the address of Michael's rented mantion, where he was with MJ. He went on saying there were no land line in the house cause Michael had disconnected it as he often did out of fear that people would discover his number. So he said he could not call cause the call would not be traced to a land line and he could not give the 911 dispatcher the adress he was at.

Now that is the lamest stupidest excuse I've ever heard in my life!!! :evil:

but even if there wasn't land line he should have tryed to call. To call someone ask for a phone :roll: . nobody in the house had a cellphone sure
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 05, 2010, 11:09:31 PM
The point I'm trying to make though is first there wasn't a phone and he had to find one, but now he's saying he was on the phone with his GF. 2 completely different stories.
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 05, 2010, 11:19:55 PM
Also, remember that the Coroner's Report mentions that there was a "large land-line phone" on a table by the bed where MJ "died." :roll:
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 06, 2010, 12:58:52 AM
He's been lying from the beginning, either outright or by omission. It's what he does. I'm sure he simply can't keep his own lies straight anymore.
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 06, 2010, 01:19:03 AM
I am confused, if in fact Murray did say that he was on the phone with his GF when he discoverd Michael not breathing, but took so long to call because he could not find a phone. Why not hang up with the GF and call 911 with the cell phone your on?, that would be the most sensible thing to do.


These 2 stories do not make any sense at all, I remember someone mentioning they had to call outside the house because there were not working phones in the house, which still does not make sense because why go outside to make the call? and the 911 call that the media decided to release for us to hear, you can hear voices in the backgroud at which I am still not entirley convinced was doctor Murray, because it is inaudible what that person is saying. I am not even convinced that the 911 call was real in the first place, remember the media tells us what we want to hear, and most of the time it is not the truth. To be sure the truth is, we may never really know what really happened, because none of us were there. The trial is only going to reveal so much information, but there will be so much details that only the people involved in this  that were there that day, will really know.  
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 06, 2010, 03:03:13 AM
http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/conrad-mu ... 0-minutes/

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Dr. Murray’s other excuse for not calling 911 was that Michael’s phones in the house didn’t work, and Michael didn’t have a phone in his room. All doctors walk around with a cell phone on their hip. Dr. Murray’s response was that he didn’t know Michael’s exact address for 911, so he waited until he could get security to call for him.

http://sify.com/movies/hollywood/fullst ... d=14897301

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Lawyers representing Michael Jackson's doctor Conrad Murray have said that their client couldn't call for emergency services when he discovered the singer unconscious because he didn't know the address of the property.
Murray, who was staying with the singer in Los Angeles when he died last Thursday, insisted he tried his best to get help when he discovered the star in bed but was hampered by his unfamiliarity with the rented home's address, reports contactmusic.com.
According to the medic's lawyer Edward Chernoff, Murray tried to call 911 but was unable to get a line out because of security restrictions on the property's phone lines. He considered using his personal mobile phone but realised he didn't know the address and so shouted for other staff to help him.
The doctor rushed through the house and found the pop legend's chef, who alerted his security staff who then called for an ambulance.


http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/10/michael-j ... all-lapd/3

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We've learned Dr. Murray was on a cell phone with his girlfriend from Houston between 12:03 and 12:13 PM on June 25, 2009 -- the day Jackson died.
Sources say the girlfriend told LAPD detectives about 5 minutes into the call, she heard Dr. Murray abruptly drop the phone and then heard him administer CPR. The girlfriend said there was no indication Dr. Murray knew anything was amiss before dropping the telephone.
Sources say the girlfriend does not know if Murray was in the room with Jackson when he called her or if he walked in just before realizing MJ was in deep trouble.
The bodyguard called 911 at 12:21 PM, approximately 13 minutes after Dr. Murray dropped the phone.



http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... alifornia/
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On June 24, Jackson finished up a rehearsal at the Staples Center and asked Murray to stay the night. The next day around noon, Murray went to check on Jackson and found him lying on his bed unconscious, but with a weak pulse, the doctor's attorneys say.
Murray performed CPR for about 30 minutes and tried to call 911, but could not call out on the landlines, which had been turned off for security reasons. He could not use his cell phone because, his attorneys have said, he did not know the exact address of the house. After performing CPR on Jackson, who lay on his bed, for approximately 30 minutes, and after yelling out for someone else in the home, he left the pop star to try to find someone who could call 911. He found a chef in another part of the house. The chef then found a bodyguard, Alberto Alvarez, and while Murray rushed back to Jackson’s room and continued CPR, Alvarez called 911.
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 06, 2010, 08:09:13 PM
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http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/conrad-murray-did-not-call-911-for-michael-jackson-for-30-minutes/

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Dr. Murray’s other excuse for not calling 911 was that Michael’s phones in the house didn’t work, and Michael didn’t have a phone in his room. All doctors walk around with a cell phone on their hip. Dr. Murray’s response was that he didn’t know Michael’s exact address for 911, so he waited until he could get security to call for him.

http://sify.com/movies/hollywood/fullst ... d=14897301

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Lawyers representing Michael Jackson's doctor Conrad Murray have said that their client couldn't call for emergency services when he discovered the singer unconscious because he didn't know the address of the property.
Murray, who was staying with the singer in Los Angeles when he died last Thursday, insisted he tried his best to get help when he discovered the star in bed but was hampered by his unfamiliarity with the rented home's address, reports contactmusic.com.
According to the medic's lawyer Edward Chernoff, Murray tried to call 911 but was unable to get a line out because of security restrictions on the property's phone lines. He considered using his personal mobile phone but realised he didn't know the address and so shouted for other staff to help him.
The doctor rushed through the house and found the pop legend's chef, who alerted his security staff who then called for an ambulance.


http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/10/michael-j ... all-lapd/3

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We've learned Dr. Murray was on a cell phone with his girlfriend from Houston between 12:03 and 12:13 PM on June 25, 2009 -- the day Jackson died.
Sources say the girlfriend told LAPD detectives about 5 minutes into the call, she heard Dr. Murray abruptly drop the phone and then heard him administer CPR. The girlfriend said there was no indication Dr. Murray knew anything was amiss before dropping the telephone.
Sources say the girlfriend does not know if Murray was in the room with Jackson when he called her or if he walked in just before realizing MJ was in deep trouble.
The bodyguard called 911 at 12:21 PM, approximately 13 minutes after Dr. Murray dropped the phone.



http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... alifornia/
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On June 24, Jackson finished up a rehearsal at the Staples Center and asked Murray to stay the night. The next day around noon, Murray went to check on Jackson and found him lying on his bed unconscious, but with a weak pulse, the doctor's attorneys say.
Murray performed CPR for about 30 minutes and tried to call 911, but could not call out on the landlines, which had been turned off for security reasons. He could not use his cell phone because, his attorneys have said, he did not know the exact address of the house. After performing CPR on Jackson, who lay on his bed, for approximately 30 minutes, and after yelling out for someone else in the home, he left the pop star to try to find someone who could call 911. He found a chef in another part of the house. The chef then found a bodyguard, Alberto Alvarez, and while Murray rushed back to Jackson’s room and continued CPR, Alvarez called 911.

Thank you for finding all these links to back my version, I knew it was the 1st one that was given. ;)
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 06, 2010, 08:12:29 PM
didnt the newest article of tmz say he was in the bathroom?? so ANOTHER LIE :roll:
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 06, 2010, 08:59:55 PM
Quote from: "Jennie"
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http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/conrad-murray-did-not-call-911-for-michael-jackson-for-30-minutes/

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Dr. Murray’s other excuse for not calling 911 was that Michael’s phones in the house didn’t work, and Michael didn’t have a phone in his room. All doctors walk around with a cell phone on their hip. Dr. Murray’s response was that he didn’t know Michael’s exact address for 911, so he waited until he could get security to call for him.

http://sify.com/movies/hollywood/fullst ... d=14897301

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Lawyers representing Michael Jackson's doctor Conrad Murray have said that their client couldn't call for emergency services when he discovered the singer unconscious because he didn't know the address of the property.
Murray, who was staying with the singer in Los Angeles when he died last Thursday, insisted he tried his best to get help when he discovered the star in bed but was hampered by his unfamiliarity with the rented home's address, reports contactmusic.com.
According to the medic's lawyer Edward Chernoff, Murray tried to call 911 but was unable to get a line out because of security restrictions on the property's phone lines. He considered using his personal mobile phone but realised he didn't know the address and so shouted for other staff to help him.
The doctor rushed through the house and found the pop legend's chef, who alerted his security staff who then called for an ambulance.


http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/10/michael-j ... all-lapd/3

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We've learned Dr. Murray was on a cell phone with his girlfriend from Houston between 12:03 and 12:13 PM on June 25, 2009 -- the day Jackson died.
Sources say the girlfriend told LAPD detectives about 5 minutes into the call, she heard Dr. Murray abruptly drop the phone and then heard him administer CPR. The girlfriend said there was no indication Dr. Murray knew anything was amiss before dropping the telephone.
Sources say the girlfriend does not know if Murray was in the room with Jackson when he called her or if he walked in just before realizing MJ was in deep trouble.
The bodyguard called 911 at 12:21 PM, approximately 13 minutes after Dr. Murray dropped the phone.



http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... alifornia/
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On June 24, Jackson finished up a rehearsal at the Staples Center and asked Murray to stay the night. The next day around noon, Murray went to check on Jackson and found him lying on his bed unconscious, but with a weak pulse, the doctor's attorneys say.
Murray performed CPR for about 30 minutes and tried to call 911, but could not call out on the landlines, which had been turned off for security reasons. He could not use his cell phone because, his attorneys have said, he did not know the exact address of the house. After performing CPR on Jackson, who lay on his bed, for approximately 30 minutes, and after yelling out for someone else in the home, he left the pop star to try to find someone who could call 911. He found a chef in another part of the house. The chef then found a bodyguard, Alberto Alvarez, and while Murray rushed back to Jackson’s room and continued CPR, Alvarez called 911.

Thank you for finding all these links to back my version, I knew it was the 1st one that was given. ;)


Yes, but there is several other versions too. That's the point I'm trying to make here
Geez  :roll:
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 06, 2010, 09:19:19 PM
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http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/conrad-murray-did-not-call-911-for-michael-jackson-for-30-minutes/

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Dr. Murray’s other excuse for not calling 911 was that Michael’s phones in the house didn’t work, and Michael didn’t have a phone in his room. All doctors walk around with a cell phone on their hip. Dr. Murray’s response was that he didn’t know Michael’s exact address for 911, so he waited until he could get security to call for him.

http://sify.com/movies/hollywood/fullst ... d=14897301

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Lawyers representing Michael Jackson's doctor Conrad Murray have said that their client couldn't call for emergency services when he discovered the singer unconscious because he didn't know the address of the property.
Murray, who was staying with the singer in Los Angeles when he died last Thursday, insisted he tried his best to get help when he discovered the star in bed but was hampered by his unfamiliarity with the rented home's address, reports contactmusic.com.
According to the medic's lawyer Edward Chernoff, Murray tried to call 911 but was unable to get a line out because of security restrictions on the property's phone lines. He considered using his personal mobile phone but realised he didn't know the address and so shouted for other staff to help him.
The doctor rushed through the house and found the pop legend's chef, who alerted his security staff who then called for an ambulance.


http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/10/michael-j ... all-lapd/3

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We've learned Dr. Murray was on a cell phone with his girlfriend from Houston between 12:03 and 12:13 PM on June 25, 2009 -- the day Jackson died.
Sources say the girlfriend told LAPD detectives about 5 minutes into the call, she heard Dr. Murray abruptly drop the phone and then heard him administer CPR. The girlfriend said there was no indication Dr. Murray knew anything was amiss before dropping the telephone.
Sources say the girlfriend does not know if Murray was in the room with Jackson when he called her or if he walked in just before realizing MJ was in deep trouble.
The bodyguard called 911 at 12:21 PM, approximately 13 minutes after Dr. Murray dropped the phone.



http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... alifornia/
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On June 24, Jackson finished up a rehearsal at the Staples Center and asked Murray to stay the night. The next day around noon, Murray went to check on Jackson and found him lying on his bed unconscious, but with a weak pulse, the doctor's attorneys say.
Murray performed CPR for about 30 minutes and tried to call 911, but could not call out on the landlines, which had been turned off for security reasons. He could not use his cell phone because, his attorneys have said, he did not know the exact address of the house. After performing CPR on Jackson, who lay on his bed, for approximately 30 minutes, and after yelling out for someone else in the home, he left the pop star to try to find someone who could call 911. He found a chef in another part of the house. The chef then found a bodyguard, Alberto Alvarez, and while Murray rushed back to Jackson’s room and continued CPR, Alvarez called 911.

Thank you for finding all these links to back my version, I knew it was the 1st one that was given. ;)


Yes, but there is several other versions too. That's the point I'm trying to make here
Geez  :roll:

Yes I know you are pointing out that there are other versions, only in my mind the versions of not being able to call 911 cause he had no phone or only his cell phone can follow with his 1st explanation that he didn't know the adress. I just wanted to point that out.... sorry I did not mean to plant confusion.  :|

Yes there are other versions, several, you are right. :)
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 06, 2010, 09:53:17 PM
In Australia, we have a tracking system...that means that regardless where a call is made from, within 1 minute of talking, the emergency call centre automatically tracks the address and sends out the emergency vehicles.    So, couldnt CM just have made a call, and leave the cell on the floor or bed as he was performing CPR, and just keep talking??????  As always, with L.O.V.E  xox
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 06, 2010, 11:20:25 PM
wait, was he out of the room making phone call and returned to find mj's not breathing or he was out of the room to go the toilet and returned to find mj's not breathing? so which one is true? if he went out to make a phone call, then, when did he go to the toilet? or am i losing my tracks here?
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 07, 2010, 01:16:37 AM
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wait, was he out of the room making phone call and returned to find mj's not breathing or he was out of the room to go the toilet and returned to find mj's not breathing? so which one is true? if he went out to make a phone call, then, when did he go to the toilet? or am i losing my tracks here?


Maybe we should start a list.

1. He left the room to use the toilet
2. He was on the phone with his GF
3. He was sleeping (another one I've heard)
......

I'm sure there will be more
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 07, 2010, 01:29:32 AM
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wait, was he out of the room making phone call and returned to find mj's not breathing or he was out of the room to go the toilet and returned to find mj's not breathing? so which one is true? if he went out to make a phone call, then, when did he go to the toilet? or am i losing my tracks here?


Maybe we should start a list.

1. He left the room to use the toilet
2. He was on the phone with his GF
3. He was sleeping (another one I've heard)
......

I'm sure there will be more

once his lawyer said he didn't leave michael's side at all. yeah, i heard that sleeping part too..
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 07, 2010, 08:22:17 AM
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wait, was he out of the room making phone call and returned to find mj's not breathing or he was out of the room to go the toilet and returned to find mj's not breathing? so which one is true? if he went out to make a phone call, then, when did he go to the toilet? or am i losing my tracks here?


Maybe we should start a list.

1. He left the room to use the toilet
2. He was on the phone with his GF
3. He was sleeping (another one I've heard)
......

I'm sure there will be more

once his lawyer said he didn't leave michael's side at all. yeah, i heard that sleeping part too..


Don't foget the rumor that he was with a call girl or left to actually spend time with his girlfriend.
I don't know where that was originally reported, but I read it on here.

Murray's story has A LOT of inconsistancies....
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 07, 2010, 08:38:12 AM
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wait, was he out of the room making phone call and returned to find mj's not breathing or he was out of the room to go the toilet and returned to find mj's not breathing? so which one is true? if he went out to make a phone call, then, when did he go to the toilet? or am i losing my tracks here?


Maybe we should start a list.

1. He left the room to use the toilet
2. He was on the phone with his GF
3. He was sleeping (another one I've heard)
......

I'm sure there will be more

Maybe he phoned with his girlfriend on the toilet...
She stated, that he suddenly dropped the phone and then she heard him performing CPR.
The TMZ report (I think) states, that he didn't leave the room to make phone calls, because MJ liked some ongoing in his room, when he was asleep. Just recently, there popped up a video on YouTube, where Michael says, he likes to sleep with lights on... That was a few days, before TMZ reported that.
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 07, 2010, 09:03:04 PM
The strory about CM being out with a call girl after putting Michael under with propofol is not one of Murray's versions. Maybe we should make a list of versions by Murray and his defense team and one that comes from other sources.
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 08, 2010, 08:01:42 PM
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In Australia, we have a tracking system...that means that regardless where a call is made from, within 1 minute of talking, the emergency call centre automatically tracks the address and sends out the emergency vehicles.    So, couldnt CM just have made a call, and leave the cell on the floor or bed as he was performing CPR, and just keep talking??????  As always, with L.O.V.E  xox

i'm all with you on this. cellphones have gps nowadays, so not knowing the address as an excuse for murray not using his own phone is BS! then he had to get a security guard upstairs who was also using a cellphone, which resulted in the hotel address being attached to that phone...causes the question why alvarez is still using a phone registered with his old employer... :roll: or if the call was even made from mike's house if the address shown was generated from gps and the call was indeed made from the hotel...maybe that's even the clue: cuz murray would have no explanation why the hotel address would show up i f he had made the call. alvarez was a former employee there (connections!) and he came up with the excuse. hmmm... :?
that would also explain why a fake ambulance pic was even necessary cuz the ambulance was empty with mike already in the hotel, waiting to take off while everybody is gathering around the hospital...clear air... :mrgreen:
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 08, 2010, 09:25:30 PM
I heard about this a few months back on the old forum, mjkit I believe, and my take on this is that if someone died in MJ's house that day it was not MJ wich is why the paramedics did not recognize him. Meanwhile the real MJ was a the hotel where the call was made from and he was just about to leave for lax airport. IMO 8-)
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 08, 2010, 10:24:19 PM
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I heard about this a few months back on the old forum, mjkit I believe, and my take on this is that if someone died in MJ's house that day it was not MJ wich is why the paramedics did not recognize him. Meanwhile the real MJ was a the hotel where the call was made from and he was just about to leave for lax airport. IMO 8-)

yes, i read that too!
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 09, 2010, 04:26:44 AM
Quote from: "Jade Jackson"
Also, remember that the Coroner's Report mentions that there was a "large land-line phone" on a table by the bed where MJ "died." :roll:

It was disconnected.  We'll see what comes out in the trial.  That so called friend of his who's name escapes me at the moment said he tried to return Michael's call from 1 or 2 days previous and the number had been changed.  Actually he said that the number had been disconnected and decided to clarify that and added that the number had been changed.
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Re: MURRAY's Lie The Phone

  • on: April 09, 2010, 04:50:55 AM
Quote from: "ABeautifulMind"
Ok, after reading over some of the post about Murray saying that MJ killed himself. And After reading that Murray said he was on the phone with his girlfriend while Mj was sleeping then left the room WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!!!!! didn't Murray say in the beginning that it took him so long to call 911 because he couldn't find a phone in the house?  looks like someone's lying.

What was reported and I think that the police have the recording, is that Dr. Murray called Michael's assisant, Michael Amir Williams, and left a message. Or maybe he didn't leave a message and spoke to Mr. Williams directly.  Either way there would be a record of the call.  The assistant must have retrieved the message pretty quick.  The assistant in turn called Alberto Alvarez and Alberto dashed into the house.  Why Dr. Murray couldn't have called the 911 and told them that he was on the corner of the Blvd. and N. Carolwood is beyond me.  Even if he didn't know the street number, he must have known he was on the bleeping corner.
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