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Raven

Re: The Eyes Have It
April 07, 2010, 05:40:22 AM
The keyword is:

FINGERPRINTS

it will point out all candidates that may have administered substances to Michael, except if they wore gloves.

However we know there was a box of latex gloves in the room, so whoever wore them may not have left fingerprints. Also let's hope Murray was not that shrude to put Michael's fingerprints on the attributes while he was unconcious.
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Re: The Eyes Have It
April 07, 2010, 05:46:35 AM
The eyes were open, the eyes were closed, and he even collapsed on the floor in front of his son.... :lol:
Murray is innocent  because ....it never happened!  The truth never changes.....this story constantly does.  

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Quote from: "Bellexx"
Michael Jackson -- The Eyes Have It
Posted Apr 6th 2010 3:50PM by TMZ Staff

Michael Jackson's eyes could be powerful evidence in favor of Dr. Conrad Murray.



TMZ broke the story ... Dr. Murray's lawyers will argue Jackson accidentally killed himself by self-injecting a lethal dose of Propofol into his bloodstream. As we reported, Dr. Murray says he left the bedroom for a short time, came back in and saw Michael with his eyes wide open and pupils dilated.

Medical experts who spoke with TMZ say ... if a patient is sleeping and dies of an overdose, their eyes most likely would not open. The defense position -- Jackson woke up when Murray was out of the room, became frustrated he couldn't sleep, grabbed the Propofol bottle and "pushed it" -- killing himself.

If a jury believes Jackson's eyes were open, they could also believe Jackson was awake and, perhaps, capable of grabbing the Propofol bottle which was on the nightstand.

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Re: The Eyes Have It
April 07, 2010, 05:56:21 AM
@Dancing -- the idea of him opening his eyes also worries me.

If the scenario is true - the failed breathing and the open eyes make me wonder - could he have choked on something. If he is supposed to have consumed loads of coco-cola before he went to sleep and then taken an anesthetic - while coming around, don't you think he could have choked on that liquid. We all know that you have to fast for 12 hours before any surgery that requires anesthetic - only because when coming to, the patient feels nauseous and since they are still groggy they may vomit before they fully awake and are likely to choke on their vomit.

This is something I don't know understand about Murray. How untrained was he? Even though I had my emergency response training eight years ago - I still remember that for unconscious people you check the ABCs first. Airway, Breathing and Circulation.

If Michael was not breathing, his first priority was to check if his airway was clear and then either attach an ambu bag or do mouth to mouth. Circulation and heart pumping comes after that and we know that Murray was not familiar with that either.

As a certified emergency response person - my license could be revoked anytime I did not follow standard procedure. I wonder why the medical board is so lenient with CM - it is not just putting people under that he has to stay away from. What about emergency treatment - not being able to do proper CPR or first aid - cant they stop him from practicing on those grounds. He is not fit to deal with any heart patients who might need emergency treatment.
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Re: The Eyes Have It
April 07, 2010, 06:12:10 AM
Quote from: "Raven"
The keyword is:

FINGERPRINTS

it will point out all candidates that may have administered substances to Michael, except if they wore gloves.

However we know there was a box of latex gloves in the room, so whoever wore them may not have left fingerprints. Also let's hope Murray was not that shrude to put Michael's fingerprints on the attributes while he was uncontious.

Exactly, that's so basic. I barely can believe that they are suggesting in use the 'eyes open' history as proof that he was awaken.

Oh, if Murray or anyone put Michael's prints in that Propofol, that would be just so nasty, but sadly is a valid thought.
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Re: The Eyes Have It
April 07, 2010, 06:58:34 AM
Quote from: "mjfansince4"
ok guys. please look at this bullshit again-

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Jackson woke up when Murray was out of the room, became frustrated he couldn't sleep

BAHAHAHAHAHA!!! good find!! :o  :D  :D  :lol:  :lol: that makes absolutely NO sense!!
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Re: The Eyes Have It
April 07, 2010, 08:24:50 AM
Quote from: "MJEnjoyYourself"
Quote from: "XspeechlessX"
Are we missing the point here?
Look at it. At first all you guys said this was BS.. if thats the case....

could this be a clue?

"the eyes have it"

Look for someone with Michael's eyes?
Dave Dave?
CM?
Blonde?
Hatman?


See where im going?  :?

the poster of Cris Angel? beLIEve?? :?

Right.. youre with me. Im looking at eyes. I think its a comparison weh ave to do here. They gave us a greta close up of MJs eyes i mean come on! To me theyre identical to Dave Daves.  :roll: I hate to bring it back up but I cant see how anyones eyes could be that close of a match.
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Re: The Eyes Have It
April 07, 2010, 10:59:21 AM
:lol: They're being very clever and creative with these scenarios aren't they? It's puzzling to me. Why are they going through all this trouble?

 :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:
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Re: The Eyes Have It
April 07, 2010, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Also there is the question of the large amounts of Propofol in MJs system..  this is consistent with the theory that MJ recieved a massive shot of Propofol which killed him instantly. Therefore the body didnt have enough time to circulate it through the body and work it out.

If there is any scenario which is believable it is that Michael was awake when he recieved that fatal shot.  Whether Murray gave it to him, someone else did or MJ did..  that was (in my mind) what happened if MJ did die.

Metabolize - is the word you're looking for.
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Re: The Eyes Have It
April 07, 2010, 08:42:06 PM
And as in this case, "Michael is" Awakened "..  :?: That is not" could sleep,  :lol: "the eLearning Awards website is injected Then, while Murray is in the bathroom, it is assumed That the advantage goes to the bathroom That Was Michael asleep, all in 2 minutes ,.... prepare the injection, .. and "kill".. Cardiac arrest, open eyes, And What state paramedics found Michael, His Eyes Were open or closed, you said this? :?:
So Murray is Dedicated to hiding the bottles with Alvarez as a witness and this does nothing, ...  8-)
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Re: The Eyes Have It
April 10, 2010, 03:00:24 AM
Quote from: "Bellexx"
Michael Jackson -- The Eyes Have It
Posted Apr 6th 2010 3:50PM by TMZ Staff

Michael Jackson's eyes could be powerful evidence in favor of Dr. Conrad Murray.





His "eyes were open" and he was capable - that´s what I think too.  8-)

And maybe "the eyes" really have it?...    :mrgreen:

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Re: The Eyes Have It
April 10, 2010, 06:17:03 PM
When I first read this "The eyes have it", I instantly thought of the poll on the other article. Ayes vs eyes. So the poll is correct and those that thought they were afraid to say he lives are now astonished that so many do believe! I am thinking that this article has nothing to do with Murray or Michaels eyes. It is saying we are correct and referring back to the poll.

Another thing is the Strong painting that is on Ebay, Michael has blue eyes in the painting, yes I said blue. Is there any other artwork or photos that have Michael with blue eyes?

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Is this title drawing us to the painting as well?
This web could be so enormously huge but all tied together with smoke and mist. And LOVE of course  ;)
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Re: The Eyes Have It
April 10, 2010, 06:33:06 PM
Quote from: "2 Bad"
When I first read this "The eyes have it", I instantly thought of the poll on the other article. Ayes vs eyes. So the poll is correct and those that thought they were afraid to say he lives are now astonished that so many do believe! I am thinking that this article has nothing to do with Murray or Michaels eyes. It is saying we are correct and referring back to the poll.

Another thing is the Strong painting that is on Ebay, Michael has blue eyes in the painting, yes I said blue. Is there any other artwork or photos that have Michael with blue eyes?

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Is this title drawing us to the painting as well?
This web could be so enormously huge but all tied together with smoke and mist. And LOVE of course  ;)

Yes..  ive noticed Michaels eyes are blue in that painting too.  Ive never seen a painting with Mikes eyes blue before and i guess that is pretty strange considering this was a portrait of him.

The only other time ive seen Mike with blue eyes is this picture i have..  but i dont know where its from.  Isnt it strange how eye colour can change the face?  It makes him look completely different.
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Re: The Eyes Have It
April 10, 2010, 06:39:17 PM
real eyes realize real lies
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Re: The Eyes Have It
April 11, 2010, 07:13:05 AM
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my[KING]"]real eyes realize real lies

nice find ;)
when i look in his eyes i see blanket so amazing how much they are alike :)
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Re: The Eyes Have It
October 30, 2010, 02:26:16 PM
Have you ever heared about Sanpaku eyes?
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