The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

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The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 09:12:18 AM
I'm posting this video because I think this is very important to know to any parent or any child or teen that is in school or highschool right now. School is corrupting the minds of our children. School was actually made to keep us dumbed down. We all know now (the people who know the truth) that the history books in school are a lie, we are not meant to learn or explore the truth. That is why we learn pointless things in school. We are meant to think that when we go to school it's the foundation to getting a carreer and being successful. Which is not true. I myself dropped out of school when I was 15 years old I'm 20 now. And school was for me a living hell to be honest. YOU LEARN NOTHING IN SCHOOL, absolutely NOTHING. School is a place where children bully each other, children feel insecure, you have the popular groups, the nerds, the losers and think about it is this what it's all about? No it's not. I know one thing for sure I'm not putting my children in school later. I will not let them be dumbed down how they have tried to dumb me down. Instead I will learn my children the truth I will teach them about God and I will let them be homeschooled. I do not regret one minute that I dropped out of school not one minute. I've probably learned more now than I've ever learned at school. You will not find truth in school because they would never ever learn you that., you will not find truth in the history books.

Think about it, you get up in the morning and what is it all about? Going to school, or bringing your children to school (so they can be dumbed down), your husband and yourself go to work, you get the kids from school, come back home you eat, drink, watch some (mind controlling) television and you go to sleep. And do the same thing ALL OVER AGAIN the next day. It's like we are robots really. This is what life is not about. Life is about exploring and finding truth and connection with your creator. Sorry for my long post but all I want to say is that if I was a parents I would get my kids out of school and get them homeschooled and learn them about the truth instead of let them be dumbed down and let them believe that work and school is important because it's not! That is what they want us to think and believe. The children are our future and that are dumbing our future down, stand up for truth and take action and take control in your own hands!

[youtube:2t35xzhg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYmpoRBXgVM[/youtube:2t35xzhg]
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 09:23:21 AM
I wish we could have a world without money.  I hate it. As much as people need it to live now, its used for all the wrong reasons. I hae never understood how footballers can be paid millions every week for kicking a ball around a field and yet there are people starving in africa.

It makes no sense to me at all.

 :roll:

Makes me hate this world. Everything you learn in life is aimed at making money. Like i school.. (while were on topic) the other day some kid in my class did something at the teacher was shouting at him like you wont get far in life witht hat attitude.. youl never make any money. And I was just like.. wth is wrong with these people.  :roll:

I dont wana make money.. I want to help people. Ahh.

Cant we just start over.  :(
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 09:29:39 AM
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I wish we could have a world without money.  I hate it. As much as people need it to live now, its used for all the wrong reasons. I hae never understood how footballers can be paid millions every week for kicking a ball around a field and yet there are people starving in africa.

It makes no sense to me at all.

 :roll:

Makes me hate this world. Everything you learn in life is aimed at making money. Like i school.. (while were on topic) the other day some kid in my class did something at the teacher was shouting at him like you wont get far in life witht hat attitude.. youl never make any money. And I was just like.. wth is wrong with these people.  :roll:

I dont wana make money.. I want to help people. Ahh.

Cant we just start over.  :(

I know how you feel, starting over would be perfect but sadly that can't be done. They have us so sucked in this system that we have to depend on them because of the money. I'm not saying you should drop out of school but you're educating yourself with knowlegde and truth beside school so that is good. You know more than your teacher does and that is one thing for sure. I wonder sometimes do the teachers actually know what they are doing there, because they are teaching children false information and lies. But then you think what is the point of being in school if I know more than I'm learning there. I don't want to make money also to be honest, I want to help people as well. I want to help people learn the truth. I still don't have a job to be honest and I used to be a little ashamed of that but not now, once I go find a job I'm a slave to the system and I don't want to do that I don't want to be making money for the system and for the banks and for the evil forces in this world. I'm using my time for the truth not for making money!
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 09:48:25 AM
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I wish we could have a world without money.  I hate it. As much as people need it to live now, its used for all the wrong reasons. I hae never understood how footballers can be paid millions every week for kicking a ball around a field and yet there are people starving in africa.

It makes no sense to me at all.

 :roll:

Makes me hate this world. Everything you learn in life is aimed at making money. Like i school.. (while were on topic) the other day some kid in my class did something at the teacher was shouting at him like you wont get far in life witht hat attitude.. youl never make any money. And I was just like.. wth is wrong with these people.  :roll:

I dont wana make money.. I want to help people. Ahh.

Cant we just start over.  :(

I know how you feel, starting over would be perfect but sadly that can't be done. They have us so sucked in this system that we have to depend on them because of the money. I'm not saying you should drop out of school but you're educating yourself with knowlegde and truth beside school so that is good. You know more than your teacher does and that is one thing for sure. I wonder sometimes do the teachers actually know what they are doing there, because they are teaching children false information and lies. But then you think what is the point of being in school if I know more than I'm learning there. I don't want to make money also to be honest, I want to help people as well. I want to help people learn the truth. I still don't have a job to be honest and I used to be a little ashamed of that but not now, once I go find a job I'm a slave to the system and I don't want to do that I don't want to be making money for the system and for the banks and for the evil forces in this world. I'm using my time for the truth not for making money!


I mean.. ill go to school... thats fine Im not bothered... thing is im going into A-levels now and im taking textiles, art, business studies and maths.

Only reason im taking maths is cause im good at it...i mean to most its just confusing as anything but in class i just switch off. i dont lidten really.. so i dont know how i understand it i just do..

textiles and art.. i dont see how they can really brinwash you with that one cause its what i want to do.. i like being creative... builds my imagination. (:

and business studies cause when i do get a job i want to own my own business, work for myself. none of these people controlling me. work on my own terms in my own time.

I hate being controlled.

Tbh I actually like the fact that not many of my friends like Michael cause it gives me a sense of freedom. Like yesterday i was walkin on my own MJ music full blast on my ipod (not good for my ears i know) and i just felt so free.

now im rambling on so im gna go away and shut up for a bit  :lol:

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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 10:01:47 AM
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I wish we could have a world without money.  I hate it. As much as people need it to live now, its used for all the wrong reasons. I hae never understood how footballers can be paid millions every week for kicking a ball around a field and yet there are people starving in africa.

It makes no sense to me at all.

 :roll:

Makes me hate this world. Everything you learn in life is aimed at making money. Like i school.. (while were on topic) the other day some kid in my class did something at the teacher was shouting at him like you wont get far in life witht hat attitude.. youl never make any money. And I was just like.. wth is wrong with these people.  :roll:

I dont wana make money.. I want to help people. Ahh.

Cant we just start over.  :(

I know how you feel, starting over would be perfect but sadly that can't be done. They have us so sucked in this system that we have to depend on them because of the money. I'm not saying you should drop out of school but you're educating yourself with knowlegde and truth beside school so that is good. You know more than your teacher does and that is one thing for sure. I wonder sometimes do the teachers actually know what they are doing there, because they are teaching children false information and lies. But then you think what is the point of being in school if I know more than I'm learning there. I don't want to make money also to be honest, I want to help people as well. I want to help people learn the truth. I still don't have a job to be honest and I used to be a little ashamed of that but not now, once I go find a job I'm a slave to the system and I don't want to do that I don't want to be making money for the system and for the banks and for the evil forces in this world. I'm using my time for the truth not for making money!

I'm going through something like that right now with my parents and the other authority figures in my life. My mom always says, and i quote,  "Life is about being independent and making money."  :roll:  Of course I'd like to have money to pursue what I love doing and to provide for my future children, but for me it's means to an end.  So many people are trained to think money is the end goal in life.  I think the purpose of life is to fulfill your life's purpose by doing what you love using your God-given talents and loving other people.  That's sounds cheesy to some, but it's true.  I've met to many people who spend 20 years of their life on a job that they hate just so they can keep their "status" and their "paycheck".  Of course you need money to survive, but money is not a replacement for happiness and living out your dreams.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 10:07:39 AM
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Get the point?  Good.  Lets dance.

Is it over yet?  Can I open my eyes?

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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 10:25:44 AM
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I wish we could have a world without money.  I hate it. As much as people need it to live now, its used for all the wrong reasons. I hae never understood how footballers can be paid millions every week for kicking a ball around a field and yet there are people starving in africa.

It makes no sense to me at all.

 :roll:

Makes me hate this world. Everything you learn in life is aimed at making money. Like i school.. (while were on topic) the other day some kid in my class did something at the teacher was shouting at him like you wont get far in life witht hat attitude.. youl never make any money. And I was just like.. wth is wrong with these people.  :roll:

I dont wana make money.. I want to help people. Ahh.

Cant we just start over.  :(

I know how you feel, starting over would be perfect but sadly that can't be done. They have us so sucked in this system that we have to depend on them because of the money. I'm not saying you should drop out of school but you're educating yourself with knowlegde and truth beside school so that is good. You know more than your teacher does and that is one thing for sure. I wonder sometimes do the teachers actually know what they are doing there, because they are teaching children false information and lies. But then you think what is the point of being in school if I know more than I'm learning there. I don't want to make money also to be honest, I want to help people as well. I want to help people learn the truth. I still don't have a job to be honest and I used to be a little ashamed of that but not now, once I go find a job I'm a slave to the system and I don't want to do that I don't want to be making money for the system and for the banks and for the evil forces in this world. I'm using my time for the truth not for making money!

I'm going through something like that right now with my parents and the other authority figures in my life. My mom always says, and i quote,  "Life is about being independent and making money."  :roll:  Of course I'd like to have money to pursue what I love doing and to provide for my future children, but for me it's means to an end.  So many people are trained to think money is the end goal in life.  I think the purpose of life is to fulfill your life's purpose by doing what you love using your God-given talents and loving other people.  That's sounds cheesy to some, but it's true.  I've met to many people who spend 20 years of their life on a job that they hate just so they can keep their "status" and their "paycheck".  Of course you need money to survive, but money is not a replacement for happiness and living out your dreams.

I agree with you to an extend. The elite made this system so that we think we need money to survive and I don't think that's true. I'm in a huge dillema myself now because I want to work that is not the problem and I want to have money for the future of my children but I just don't want to do it for the purpose of this evil system. So I don't really know what I should do now. Because when I'm working I would be thinking what the hell am I doing here I'm being a slave to this system while I know the truth so why am I doing this. It makes no sense. So that is the little dillema I have at the moment.

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textiles and art.. i dont see how they can really brinwash you with that one cause its what i want to do.. i like being creative... builds my imagination. (:

They aren't brainwashing you with that, it's good that you have freedom in your own thoughts, will and imagination.

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and business studies cause when i do get a job i want to own my own business, work for myself. none of these people controlling me. work on my own terms in my own time.

I hate being controlled.

Tbh I actually like the fact that not many of my friends like Michael cause it gives me a sense of freedom. Like yesterday i was walkin on my own MJ music full blast on my ipod (not good for my ears i know) and i just felt so free.

I absolutely agree with you on this!
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 10:46:19 AM
Oh wow I completely disagree with this! I tell you what, I wish I would have stayed in school! I only have a 10th grade education. I was actually in high school, working part time and going to college part time. Due to unfortunate circumstances with my mothers attempted suicide, I had to quit everything and take care of her!

 Now that I am  36 I really crave to learn new things and to be with my peers. You don't have to agree with what's in the history books, but it gives you a strong foundation to go and search for truth on your own.  In Texas, our teachers are tested to make sure that they are mentally equipped to teach our children. If they do not pass, they do not teach.

I have loved the teachers that my children have had so far. They are both in elementary school for a few more years. I do agree about the cliques and bullying. I was fortunate enough to be in with the "in crowd" so it's not something that I had to worry about too much. Of course, we all have our negative experiences with other students.Believe me, I had my share.

I hated school when I was attending. But I was too caught up in boys and friends. I can appreciate all of that now. As a matter of fact, I will be attending college in October this year!! WHOOP! I am VERY excited about that! Some of us really enjoy learning. I am definitely one of them! What I want to do, I have to have a degree. No matter how much knowledge I have on the subject, it's not worth it's grain in salt unless I go to school and get that degree.

I had my own business for awhile reading Tarot cards.. I didn't have to go to school for a degree in that, but that's not what I wanted to do for the rest of my life.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 11:09:41 AM
I agree so much with you and what you said about school. I have thought that by myself so often. I'm still going to school and from the first day till now the time I've been going to school really was a mess. Schools are places of hate, discrimination and illusion. They say children go there to learn important things for their life and to get a good job and earn much money later. But they don't learn what life is about. It's not about money and success.
I always went home from school and thought what have I learned now? Why was I there? Really, if I hadn't been going to school from the beginning I would have learned so much more, I know that. Children are going to school and are being dumped down, and told lies... They are teached to be robots and to get in line with the system.
That's what they want, they teach the kids pointless things and well then the kids think it's all boring in school but then they are made so dumped down that they pay all their attention to handys, computer games, stupid tv programs, bullying each other and they learn nothing about the really important things in life. They don't learn anything about life, about loving each other, about attitude, about caring for other people and so on. They just learn how to line up in the system and that's really a shame.
The world could be a wonderful place for everyone if they would get rid of this system.
But everybody has their own experiences about school, some agree, some disagree, I think it depends on the school your going to. Some can be good and some just not. What I wrote above is just my opinion based on what I have experienced.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 11:17:40 AM
I agree with you on this one MJLover...My children have been homeschooled for 2 years now.  And I don't regret it for a minute.  They love homeschooling.  We spend time together like a family should.  And yes, I've taught them that not everything in history books is true.  Thanks for this post.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 11:53:29 AM
To the OP, your post is really quite disrespectful and insulting to all the amazing, hardworking educators out there, and especially on this forum.  

All schools are not created alike.  There are some AMAZING schools out there.  I have had the privilege to work in many of them over the years.  I hope to one day even be an administrator/principal of my own school. Education has been my life's passion, and I believe education to be the keys to opportunity and freedom.  

Schools generally reflect the communities they are in, and the resources available to them.  I am sorry you did not have a good experience at your school.  If you are not satisfied, do something about it.  Get involved, and make them better.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 12:06:23 PM
Okay so now I'm being disrespectful and insulting? :roll: Oh yeah make me the bad person here. I was only stating my opinion. I'm not attacking SCHOOLS I do not agree with the purpose of the schools and why they were INVENTED!
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 12:13:41 PM
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Okay so now I'm being disrespectful and insulting? :roll: Oh yeah make me the bad person here. I was only stating my opinion. I'm not attacking SCHOOLS I do not agree with the purpose of the schools and why they were INVENTED!

I am very saddened to hear that you think these things.  Schools have changed (and saved) so many lives for the better.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 12:22:01 PM
I'm not going in this discussion, everyone has their own opinion.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 01:47:27 PM
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Oh wow I completely disagree with this! I tell you what, I wish I would have stayed in school! I only have a 10th grade education. I was actually in high school, working part time and going to college part time. Due to unfortunate circumstances with my mothers attempted suicide, I had to quit everything and take care of her!

 Now that I am  36 I really crave to learn new things and to be with my peers. You don't have to agree with what's in the history books, but it gives you a strong foundation to go and search for truth on your own.  In Texas, our teachers are tested to make sure that they are mentally equipped to teach our children. If they do not pass, they do not teach.

I have loved the teachers that my children have had so far. They are both in elementary school for a few more years. I do agree about the cliques and bullying. I was fortunate enough to be in with the "in crowd" so it's not something that I had to worry about too much. Of course, we all have our negative experiences with other students.Believe me, I had my share.

I hated school when I was attending. But I was too caught up in boys and friends. I can appreciate all of that now. As a matter of fact, I will be attending college in October this year!! WHOOP! I am VERY excited about that! Some of us really enjoy learning. I am definitely one of them! What I want to do, I have to have a degree. No matter how much knowledge I have on the subject, it's not worth it's grain in salt unless I go to school and get that degree.

I had my own business for awhile reading Tarot cards.. I didn't have to go to school for a degree in that, but that's not what I wanted to do for the rest of my life.

Oh dont get me wrong, im not AGAINST learning! I mean I'm al for it! I love to learn new things! Even when they arent true cause then I can figure out for myself what is and isnt true and i love that side of things.

Like people say to me about Michael that "of course the allegations were true, why would anyone make up something like that?" But I know for a FACT that someone would and could do that cause Ive seen it happen within my family! I couldnt believe anyone could make up such cruel lies about another person but its incredible what you learn from something like that. No matter what people say about Michael Ill always stand by him cause I know that people can and will lie for anything, even no reason,. and the extent to which they will go is truly shocking.

Ive seen more in my 16 years in this world than a lot of people have in 60... but in a way im thankful for that cause it does make you stronger. You LEARN the difference between truth and lies more quickly and Ive learnt so much from Michael Ill be forever grateful to him for that.

The las 2 years have possibly been the worst of my life and not just for the reason that Mike "died" but I feel stronger and more positive because of it.

Ill never forget though that someone tried so hard to break up my family... its a lesson that im glad to have learnt.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 02:14:23 PM
I really agree with you because i go to a Chicago Public School and it is HELL for me :cry: !!!Everyday we just sit there and hear kids talk about each other,mother,fathers,family etc!!! It is very nerve wracking :x !!!!I always feel this is worthless because i am a very smart kid but some stuff we learn just does not make sense. They always make a speech about we need to focus on our work but later on there is a big fight with the students that lasts for blocks :( I was almost 1 of those kids but i thought about it and said fighting her would have been a waste of my time that i have to do other stuff. I do learn new stuff at times that make me feel more educated and i do feel smarter at the end of the day. I would NEVER recommend my school to ANYONE because that's just how bad it is. Some people would say I'm exaggerating but it is just like this. But the thing that kinda makes me upset is that we all make posters that say "Heal The World" and "We Are The World" or "Make That Change" then i said well where is the change :roll: They could not answer and i said maybe Michael would feel diff but then again if he was in the middle of 1 of these fights he would be disgusted at a bunch of 10-14 year old kids fighting. I am not downing school but i have to go back Monday and experience this for 2 more months but i just cant' take it :x . Please believe me when i say I'm going to keep on with school but i just wish my school  was better :cry:  and that all of us in the school could get along the way sum of us do with our besties :cry:
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 02:52:49 PM
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I really agree with you because i go to a Chicago Public School and it is HELL for me :cry: !!!Everyday we just sit there and hear kids talk about each other,mother,fathers,family etc!!! It is very nerve wracking :x !!!!I always feel this is worthless because i am a very smart kid but some stuff we learn just does not make sense. They always make a speech about we need to focus on our work but later on there is a big fight with the students that lasts for blocks :( I was almost 1 of those kids but i thought about it and said fighting her would have been a waste of my time that i have to do other stuff. I do learn new stuff at times that make me feel more educated and i do feel smarter at the end of the day. I would NEVER recommend my school to ANYONE because that's just how bad it is. Some people would say I'm exaggerating but it is just like this. But the thing that kinda makes me upset is that we all make posters that say "Heal The World" and "We Are The World" or "Make That Change" then i said well where is the change :roll: They could not answer and i said maybe Michael would feel diff but then again if he was in the middle of 1 of these fights he would be disgusted at a bunch of 10-14 year old kids fighting. I am not downing school but i have to go back Monday and experience this for 2 more months but i just cant' take it :x . Please believe me when i say I'm going to keep on with school but i just wish my school  was better :cry:  and that all of us in the school could get along the way sum of us do with our besties :cry:

Don't let it get you down, I'm glad you are smarter than them and that you are educating yourself. I can understand the frustration because when you learn so much more on your own than in school you think to yourself what's the point in school. But just put your head up high and learn and keep learning and decide for yourself what is truth and what is not truth. I didn't said I was against learning, I'm all for learning I myself love to learn it gives such a good feeling. But it is WHAT you are learning, if they only feed you lies in school because it was told that we should learn that. Then I think it's better if you educate yourself with more knowlegde and what you think is true and what is not true. I am for learning but I am not for learning the way school teaches us things that are not true. And yes history books are a basic foundation on finding the truth but what if even some of the basic foundations are a lie? Where do you find the truth then. I'm not saying that the history books are a lie there is some truth in the history books but not everything. But they only want to teach us things to a certain level so we think that we've learned everything and that we are fully educated. And we think we don't need to explore other things in history or in general for that matter more because we are taught things to a certain level to keep us from the truth or to keep us dumbed down. I hope I make a little sense here.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 05:59:10 PM
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To the OP, your post is really quite disrespectful and insulting to all the amazing, hardworking educators out there, and especially on this forum.  

All schools are not created alike.  There are some AMAZING schools out there.  I have had the privilege to work in many of them over the years.  I hope to one day even be an administrator/principal of my own school. Education has been my life's passion, and I believe education to be the keys to opportunity and freedom.  

Schools generally reflect the communities they are in, and the resources available to them.  I am sorry you did not have a good experience at your school.  If you are not satisfied, do something about it.  Get involved, and make them better.

I was not disparaging education at all and i think many of you misinterpreted the OP's intention. Personally, I want to be educated in a field that I actually enjoy rather than be educated in a field that "makes money".... that was the point I was trying to make.   Also,many public schools do not educate children. Like you said all schools are not created equally.  The quality differs greatly from school to school.

Btw, my mother's an elementary public school teacher and she agrees that the public school system is terribly flawed.  No one is blaming the teachers because it's not their fault.  They're not the ones who develop the curriculum.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 06:18:39 PM
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Schools are places of hate, discrimination and illusion.

I don't agree with this part. Some schools, but not all schools are like that.  School can be a great place if you find the right fit.  School itself is not bad, it's the way that the public school system (at least in America) is structured that makes some schools that way.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 06:58:17 PM
There is good and bad in everything but the good side of things must not make us blind on the bad side and maybe that the most important thing here is what is the real aim of school ? I understand the goal of this post because in a way what this young man is saying in the video is not false. School at a certain level is shaping students' minds to fit in the system. I mean the Illuminati want to control the world, they already control almost everything and I don't think that school is an exception to the rule...

When you begin school it's ok because you learn things you will need in your future life like reading, counting, writing then you still have interesting things like foreign languages...etc. but I feel like the older you become the more there is this selection, this competition of "intelligence", and unfortunately the ones who don't follow are put aside. I know that in some aspects it is necessary to select, everybody cannot become a physician (isn't it Mr. Murray ?) but does school give a real chance for everyone to succeed ? I mean everybody has the right to live a comfortable life, has the right to win enough money (it unfortunately rules the world) to live decently not only "smart" people. But I feel like the ones who don't have this specific "intelligence" are really left. They should teach that there are several kind of intelligence and that we all can bring something to this world. Finally I see school like a strainer in the end.

My point is not to say that school is a bad thing, not at all but I think it really needs to be reformed.

Then there is this system by which we are encircled. You have all these rich people exposed in the medias to make believe that money is the ultimate goal in life. Competition is over-promoted rather than compassion. They really want to build a society of selfish people who don't care about their neighbours and it makes a more monitorable society.

The problem now is that if you don't want to follow this system it is very hard for you to make a living, impossible I should say. This system is there since so long that we don't even question ourselves on its accuracy. We are litterally glued in it, we're part of it.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 07:00:04 PM
LOL im in high school. .and i absolutely HATE I, it just makes me feel so stupid.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 08, 2010, 08:46:54 PM
I knew there was a reason I hated school growing up!  :lol:

On a serious note... I knew there was a reason I hated school growing up.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 09, 2010, 11:40:30 AM
I so agree! I think that most public schools are for the birds. Recently I've heard about two stories of these bullied kids wanting to commit suicide. Two different incidents: one turned out tragic(Heard about the 15 year old girl who committed suicide because she was harassed and bullied by her peers)  and the other not so (The kid jumped from the second floor window but was okay after it) and I got the impression that both schools didn't do much of a damn to try to change the situations for the better.  :cry:

I think alternatives for learning, for kids is either homeschooling or charter schools or alternative high schools. I can relate because I had a tough time as an elementary school student. It got worse when I went to 7th grade and transferred from my first elementary school and transferred to the second because the first school only went up to 6th grade at the time. The second school was a mess. Fights every other day (They still have these to this day), and I was a total outcast. I remember telling some folks about a cousin on my dad's side who sings jazz and they came to me and told me straight up they didn't care.
Everything changed when I transferred to a charter school for 8th grade, and I had a much better time. I made more friends; the environment and atmosphere there was very pleasant and like a second family-type deal. There was a sister school for high-schoolers; an alternative high school on a college campus that I transferred to; both schools were owned by the same person, a loving principal named Mrs. Hawkins. :D The high school is still in operation to this day, and the charter school closed due to some financial troubles, but I must say attending those schools was one of my coolest experiences in a school.  :mrgreen:

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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 09, 2010, 11:40:54 AM
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I knew there was a reason I hated school growing up!  :lol:

On a serious note... I knew there was a reason I hated school growing up.

LOLL!  :lol:  :lol:

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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 09, 2010, 11:47:25 AM
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I really agree with you because i go to a Chicago Public School and it is HELL for me :cry: !!!Everyday we just sit there and hear kids talk about each other,mother,fathers,family etc!!! It is very nerve wracking :x !!!!I always feel this is worthless because i am a very smart kid but some stuff we learn just does not make sense. They always make a speech about we need to focus on our work but later on there is a big fight with the students that lasts for blocks :( I was almost 1 of those kids but i thought about it and said fighting her would have been a waste of my time that i have to do other stuff. I do learn new stuff at times that make me feel more educated and i do feel smarter at the end of the day. I would NEVER recommend my school to ANYONE because that's just how bad it is. Some people would say I'm exaggerating but it is just like this. But the thing that kinda makes me upset is that we all make posters that say "Heal The World" and "We Are The World" or "Make That Change" then i said well where is the change :roll: They could not answer and i said maybe Michael would feel diff but then again if he was in the middle of 1 of these fights he would be disgusted at a bunch of 10-14 year old kids fighting. I am not downing school but i have to go back Monday and experience this for 2 more months but i just cant' take it :x . Please believe me when i say I'm going to keep on with school but i just wish my school  was better :cry:  and that all of us in the school could get along the way sum of us do with our besties :cry:

OOh!LOL! Don't even get me started on Chicago Public Schools... :evil:  :x  :?
The two elementary schools I went to were CPS schools and the second is a school my mother refers to as "The barn", lmao. That school is terrible; as it was at the time I went. So much favoritism amongst the teachers for certain students, while other students got emotionally hurt, it was sickening. Long ago my late dad was a teacher for CPS schools. It was better back in the day, but these schools got worse and worse as time went on for some reason and I know Dad would have agreed that the school system sucks here.
For you, starchick, I would recommend a charter school in the city or something like that; my experience with a charter school was pretty awesome.  :mrgreen:  8-)

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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

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If you are not satisfied, do something about it.  Get involved, and make them better.

If you are not helping to change schools, you are also part of the problem.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

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Coincidence? Just came upon this vid from Megan Fox

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/7d5ec0 ... r-teachers
[youtube:1x7zmfuh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecDoXiGBHfs[/youtube:1x7zmfuh]
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

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How can we change school? While this evil government this evil system is in the world who is pulling the strings and yes even on the things we learn in school. If we speak out in school about the truth we are labeled as nuts for sure. And the evil system would not allow someone or a teacher to teach the truth to children because children should be kept dumbed down if they are not they will find out the truth and that is what the Illuminati wants they don't want us to find the truth. But that is not what I want, I wish I could teach children in school about the truth but they would never allow that.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 09, 2010, 12:40:38 PM
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Okay so now I'm being disrespectful and insulting? :roll: Oh yeah make me the bad person here. I was only stating my opinion. I'm not attacking SCHOOLS I do not agree with the purpose of the schools and why they were INVENTED!

I am very saddened to hear that you think these things.  Schools have changed (and saved) so many lives for the better.

It is very easy to dislike what one does have.
It is very easy to admire and wish what one doesn't have.
It is very hard to appreciate the chance for the better in what one does have.
It is very hard to start change.

There are billions of kids on this planet who wished they had a school.
There are billions of kids on this planet who wished they had not to work for a piece of bread instead.
There are billions of wasted talents that die as uneducated as they were born.

You better know how to calculate to be able to compare prizes when buying your bread.
You better know how to read and write to be able to not be tricked.
There are billions of unfortunate persons on this planet who do not know how to calculate, read or write.

Most of those who have dropped out of school do regret this later.
I hope you find a way out of your anger because you are one of the fortunate.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 09, 2010, 12:52:16 PM
Thank you, Grace.  

I've spend my whole life dedicated to education and improving schools around the world.  And I have watched so many lives transform for the better because of them.  No, they are not perfect, but you hit the nail one the head: It's easy to take for granted the things you DO have.

I'll say again what I said in my previous post:
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 09, 2010, 01:07:45 PM
I was not talking about MATH or other things in school that we learn yes that are things that we need I was talking about the TRUTH and HISTORY BOOKS. That is what I meant and that is what my whole point was of this thread but I see that this is heading somewhere else now. I've never said that school is bad and I feel like I'm repeating myself here, the thing I meant is that not all things in school are good and that most of it is degrading us. It's not all truth! But I don't understand why I'm even bothering to repeat myself over and over again while you don't get it. This is the last time I said this.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 09, 2010, 01:09:05 PM
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I was not talking about MATH or other things in school that we learn yes that are things that we need I was talking about the TRUTH and HISTORY BOOKS. That is what I meant and that is what my whole point was of this thread but I see that this is heading somewhere else now. I've never said that school is bad and I feel like I'm repeating myself here, the thing I meant is that not all things in school are good and that most of it is degrading us. It's not all truth! But I don't understand why I'm even bothering to repeat myself over and over again while you don't get it. This is the last time I said this.

Thank you.  I don't think the other posters understand what you're trying to say.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 09, 2010, 01:13:51 PM
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I was not talking about MATH or other things in school that we learn yes that are things that we need I was talking about the TRUTH and HISTORY BOOKS. That is what I meant and that is what my whole point was of this thread but I see that this is heading somewhere else now. I've never said that school is bad and I feel like I'm repeating myself here, the thing I meant is that not all things in school are good and that most of it is degrading us. It's not all truth! But I don't understand why I'm even bothering to repeat myself over and over again while you don't get it. This is the last time I said this.

I hear what you are saying, but people do have the power to change the books that are read.  Curriculum committees are created specifically for that reason.  (I have been personally been involved in that process.)  Many schools (across the US anyway) are designed for the schools to have local control in regards to curriculum selection and the books that are chosen for the subject areas.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 09, 2010, 01:22:30 PM
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I was not talking about MATH or other things in school that we learn yes that are things that we need I was talking about the TRUTH and HISTORY BOOKS. That is what I meant and that is what my whole point was of this thread but I see that this is heading somewhere else now. I've never said that school is bad and I feel like I'm repeating myself here, the thing I meant is that not all things in school are good and that most of it is degrading us. It's not all truth! But I don't understand why I'm even bothering to repeat myself over and over again while you don't get it. This is the last time I said this.

I did get you quite well. I also understand you to some extent.
I was fortunate enough to have had a history teacher who was very young and not following the schoolbooks. We learned our planned topics. But not the way it was in the books.
We did discuss back and forth.
What I took from this teacher to my life as most valuable learning was not that in this year this and that happened but the discussion culture.
I was fortunate.

But there is always a better alternative to quitting.

Why don't you start a project on some historic event in your class?
5 groups and 5 topics with different focus on the same event.
3 weeks time to work on it.
Every group has 30 min. of presentation and an hour of discussion following.
Take all the sources you feel that are not welcome or used in school.
Present your results.
Do you think you will be bashed for it?
I bet no.

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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 09, 2010, 02:02:32 PM
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I was not talking about MATH or other things in school that we learn yes that are things that we need I was talking about the TRUTH and HISTORY BOOKS. That is what I meant and that is what my whole point was of this thread but I see that this is heading somewhere else now. I've never said that school is bad and I feel like I'm repeating myself here, the thing I meant is that not all things in school are good and that most of it is degrading us. It's not all truth! But I don't understand why I'm even bothering to repeat myself over and over again while you don't get it. This is the last time I said this.

I definitely got what you said the first time. Learning is very important. My family was always about education; my late Dad was always into learning, my uncle in New York, my aunt here and my other uncle in Arkansas for example.   :mrgreen:   8-)  8-)

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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

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I was not talking about MATH or other things in school that we learn yes that are things that we need I was talking about the TRUTH and HISTORY BOOKS. That is what I meant and that is what my whole point was of this thread but I see that this is heading somewhere else now. I've never said that school is bad and I feel like I'm repeating myself here, the thing I meant is that not all things in school are good and that most of it is degrading us. It's not all truth! But I don't understand why I'm even bothering to repeat myself over and over again while you don't get it. This is the last time I said this.

I definitely got what you said the first time. Learning is very important. My family was always about education; my late Dad was always into learning, my uncle in New York, my aunt here and my other uncle in Arkansas for example.   :mrgreen:   8-)  8-)

I'm glad you got it, but I just like to say that I respect everyones opinions. Sorry if I came over as a little harsh I didn't meant that but I'm not feeling so well today, so sorry. :)
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

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The most disturbing thing about public schools are the history books. They're full of lies (not everything) and all kids have to learn those lies and take them for truth.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

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The most disturbing thing about public schools are the history books. They're full of lies (not everything) and all kids have to learn those lies and take them for truth.

That is what I meant. Thank you. :)
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

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The most disturbing thing about public schools are the history books. They're full of lies (not everything) and all kids have to learn those lies and take them for truth.

That is what I meant. Thank you. :)

And thank you for your post. I've noticed that you have an interesting view on some topics like the illuminati and nwo.  :)
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

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The most disturbing thing about public schools are the history books. They're full of lies (not everything) and all kids have to learn those lies and take them for truth.

That is what I meant. Thank you. :)

And thank you for your post. I've noticed that you have an interesting view on some topics like the illuminati and nwo.  :)

Awwww thank you, And you have some interesting posts about the Illuminati and NWO as well. :mrgreen:
You know, Michael himself even said that the history books are a lie.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

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The most disturbing thing about public schools are the history books. They're full of lies (not everything) and all kids have to learn those lies and take them for truth.

That is what I meant. Thank you. :)

And thank you for your post. I've noticed that you have an interesting view on some topics like the illuminati and nwo.  :)

Awwww thank you, And you have some interesting posts about the Illuminati and NWO as well. :mrgreen:
You know, Michael himself even said that the history books are a lie.

Thanks! (again  :D )
It really surprised me to find a lot of people here that share the same view on illuminati and NWO as I do.
Cause most of the time when I tell people about it, they look at me like I'm crazy. You know how many times I get to see this look:  :| . LOL
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

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The most disturbing thing about public schools are the history books. They're full of lies (not everything) and all kids have to learn those lies and take them for truth.

That is what I meant. Thank you. :)

And thank you for your post. I've noticed that you have an interesting view on some topics like the illuminati and nwo.  :)

Awwww thank you, And you have some interesting posts about the Illuminati and NWO as well. :mrgreen:
You know, Michael himself even said that the history books are a lie.

Thanks! (again  :D )
It really surprised me to find a lot of people here that share the same view on illuminati and NWO as I do.
Cause most of the time when I tell people about it, they look at me like I'm crazy. You know how many times I get to see this look:  :| . LOL

I know what you mean, or this look :roll: and then after that you get this :lol: and then I go :x Thank god more and more people are becoming awakened on here as well so you're at the right place.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 09, 2010, 07:09:38 PM
Thanks for the video, MJLover1990. It was thought provoking. A very eloquent young man.

I graduated from high school in '88 and I gotta say, I haven't needed all that mathematic xyz = yzx that I had to take, not once.
What kids should be taught at school is a) finance - how to use money when you start making it. Learn about intrest, debt.. all that overspending is a sign of not having a clue b) law - for example, to know your rights as an employee when entering working life c) cooking - some eat only highly manufactured meals.. obesety, diabetes d) critical thinking

But no they're not taught - I am now cynical - because to a) they want you in debt and consume, consume, consume (we're not even "people" anymore, we are "consumers") b) they want the skin off your back c) so they can sell you that more expensive and less nutritious crap d) they don't want you to question anything.
They = the system, or call it what you like (elite etc).
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 09, 2010, 07:20:29 PM
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I know what you mean, or this look :roll: and then after that you get this :lol: and then I go :x Thank god more and more people are becoming awakened on here as well so you're at the right place.

And some of them give me this look:  :shock: . Especially after they did their own research hahaha.
And some others the "I already knew that 8-)"-look.

Sometimes I can't believe the lack of interest people show about the world around them.

@NightOwl, Great post. I agree with you, people are getting raised with consumption.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 09, 2010, 07:23:59 PM
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I know what you mean, or this look :roll: and then after that you get this :lol: and then I go :x Thank god more and more people are becoming awakened on here as well so you're at the right place.

And some of them give me this look:  :shock: . Especially after they did their own research hahaha.
And some others the "I already knew that 8-)"-look.

Sometimes I can't believe the lack of interest people show about the world around them.

@NightOwl, Great post. I agree with you, people are getting raised with consumption.

Exactly, it's like they don't care but then in a selfish way. I always wanted peace but I didn't knew how and now I know we can do all this together. But we can't do it if we sit on the couch watching mind controlling television. Most people like to stay in their ''comfort zone'' The I don't care attitude. Or the there will never be peace so why bother attitude. It makes me so upset. And it's frustrating because all the answers are right in front of their noses. :evil:
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 09, 2010, 07:43:07 PM
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I know what you mean, or this look :roll: and then after that you get this :lol: and then I go :x Thank god more and more people are becoming awakened on here as well so you're at the right place.

And some of them give me this look:  :shock: . Especially after they did their own research hahaha.
And some others the "I already knew that 8-)"-look.

Sometimes I can't believe the lack of interest people show about the world around them.

@NightOwl, Great post. I agree with you, people are getting raised with consumption.

Exactly, it's like they don't care but then in a selfish way. I always wanted peace but I didn't knew how and now I know we can do all this together. But we can't do it if we sit on the couch watching mind controlling television. Most people like to stay in their ''comfort zone'' The I don't care attitude. Or the there will never be peace so why bother attitude. It makes me so upset. And it's frustrating because all the answers are right in front of their noses. :evil:

It's like when children get scared of the sound of the vacuumcleaner for example; they cover their eyes so the 'scary vacuumcleaner won't see them' because they can't see it. The same thing with people that don't want to know the truth aboutthe world they live in. If they can't see it, everything is ok.

Ok this is something different but this it the first time I see the Dutch word for vacuumcleaner a bit as a strange word; stofzuiger = dustsucker  :lol: OMG it's really getting late  :lol:
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

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I know what you mean, or this look :roll: and then after that you get this :lol: and then I go :x Thank god more and more people are becoming awakened on here as well so you're at the right place.

And some of them give me this look:  :shock: . Especially after they did their own research hahaha.
And some others the "I already knew that 8-)"-look.

Sometimes I can't believe the lack of interest people show about the world around them.

@NightOwl, Great post. I agree with you, people are getting raised with consumption.

Exactly, it's like they don't care but then in a selfish way. I always wanted peace but I didn't knew how and now I know we can do all this together. But we can't do it if we sit on the couch watching mind controlling television. Most people like to stay in their ''comfort zone'' The I don't care attitude. Or the there will never be peace so why bother attitude. It makes me so upset. And it's frustrating because all the answers are right in front of their noses. :evil:

It's like when children get scared of the sound of the vacuumcleaner for example; they cover their eyes so the 'scary vacuumcleaner won't see them' because they can't see it. The same thing with people that don't want to know the truth aboutthe world they live in. If they can't see it, everything is ok.

Ok this is something different but this it the first time I see the Dutch word for vacuumcleaner a bit as a strange word; stofzuiger = dustsucker  :lol: OMG it's really getting late  :lol:

Exactly! The stofzuiger = dustsucker thing made me laugh :lol: It is getting late, I should head to my bed too I think.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 09, 2010, 11:53:26 PM
Well, here's what's going down in Florida schools.  The first state to do this.  They have passed a bill where all teachers will lose their tenure.  They will be forced to "make every student a good student and pass that "test"... how will they do this?  Teachers have been on the news alot lately trying to explain what can they do if a child has a learning deficiency or has to work at a job in addition to school.  Will they be forced to falsify grades?  They are trying to fight this.  But what will happen is teachers will leave areas where a larger percent of failing students b/c they will not be able to afford to teach in a failing school.  The other week, one school fired "ALL" the teachers!  What did this achieve?  I am afraid this is just the beginning of a complete downfall of the education system for sure!   :?
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 10, 2010, 04:21:10 AM
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I was not talking about MATH or other things in school that we learn yes that are things that we need I was talking about the TRUTH and HISTORY BOOKS. That is what I meant and that is what my whole point was of this thread but I see that this is heading somewhere else now. I've never said that school is bad and I feel like I'm repeating myself here, the thing I meant is that not all things in school are good and that most of it is degrading us. It's not all truth! But I don't understand why I'm even bothering to repeat myself over and over again while you don't get it. This is the last time I said this.

I definitely got what you said the first time. Learning is very important. My family was always about education; my late Dad was always into learning, my uncle in New York, my aunt here and my other uncle in Arkansas for example.   :mrgreen:   8-)  8-)

I'm glad you got it, but I just like to say that I respect everyones opinions. Sorry if I came over as a little harsh I didn't meant that but I'm not feeling so well today, so sorry. :)

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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 10, 2010, 05:37:11 AM
Hmm...okay. Some of your opinions I agree with. But what would the world be like w/o schools? Without education? Without med school, we'd have not doctors, in order to go to med school you have to graduate high school. Without school, we wouldn't have people to build & fix things. There are so many things & people we need & without education, we wouldn't have them. Without school what would we have? What would we do? How would the people of the world survive? Truth is we do need education, yes there are SOME bad schools out there but at the same time not ALL schools are bad. & I first learned about textbooks being a lie IN school from a GREAT teacher who REFUSED to use them for that simple fact. He also taught us the hidden symbolism on the dollar bill & all of those kinds of things. & taught us REAL history. Among other very important, interesting things I've learned from other AMAZING teachers & I've always gone to public school. Yes, sometimes unfortunately kids get bullied, but that happens outside of schools too & even in other countries who don't have school systems like ours. & that has to do with SOCIETY as a whole & the MEDIA plays into that too, not the school or education itself. I don't know about you, but I've never known of a class in school that sits kids down & teaches them how to beat up other kids or tease kids & encourages them to do it. That is a societal issue, that needs to be changed indeed, I agree with that. & I always thought some things in school were pointless too but they're not really. Truth is we do need to learn math, we use that in everyday life. When we learn about friction, gravity, etc in science, we need to know that. We need to know chemical compounds & what chemicals can mix without having a negative reaction, if someone hadn't studied things like that, we'd be in trouble. Gym is supposed to make kids stay healthy. Art teaches & encourages creativity & focus. Languages are good to learn, to communicate with the different people in the world, or around you. Reading & writing are good skills to know. The one that's screwed up is History & that isn't the educators' fault, that's the government. Teachers are told what they should be teaching & that they HAVE to use the textbooks (like I said my teacher went against the rules & could have gotten fired if anyone had found out). That is ALL the government.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: April 27, 2010, 03:32:27 PM
I had been thinking about either homeschooling my son or putting him in private school. My son did far better in private school than he did in public school.

Now, I have to say there isn't anything wrong with making money. First the problem I see in the public school is that they don't teach these children about having their own enterprise. That is one of the problems I have noticed. By the time children are in college they are TONS of debt.  This is what makes me wonder how they set the plan for failure in the get go.  I also agree that money on the other hand is the end all. I have been out of work for sometime. Pretty much from what I have been told. I am overly qualified, yet, they are saying the unemployment rate here in the US is over 11% but you are concerned about me being overly qualified.

Anyways,  I am concorned about the school system.  School in itself is not bad. Its the system that has created it to set our children for failure. The teachers are probably ignorant of the fact that the history in the books are not all truth like so much that is out here now that many donot know unfortunately. What really got me was a few years ago about the SOLs.  They have saturated these kids so much with this that children don't even take books home anymore to read.  They no longer study.  Just not good. :|

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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: May 01, 2010, 02:57:34 PM
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I had been thinking about either homeschooling my son or putting him in private school. My son did far better in private school than he did in public school.

Now, I have to say there isn't anything wrong with making money. First the problem I see in the public school is that they don't teach these children about having their own enterprise. That is one of the problems I have noticed. By the time children are in college they are TONS of debt.  This is what makes me wonder how they set the plan for failure in the get go.  I also agree that money on the other hand is the end all. I have been out of work for sometime. Pretty much from what I have been told. I am overly qualified, yet, they are saying the unemployment rate here in the US is over 11% but you are concerned about me being overly qualified.

Anyways,  I am concorned about the school system.  School in itself is not bad. Its the system that has created it to set our children for failure. The teachers are probably ignorant of the fact that the history in the books are not all truth like so much that is out here now that many donot know unfortunately. What really got me was a few years ago about the SOLs.  They have saturated these kids so much with this that children don't even take books home anymore to read.  They no longer study.  Just not good. :|

Hosea 4:6
People perish for the lack of knowledge.
Parents must wake up to  the fact that their kids need them to be involved and aware of the circumstances in all areas of their childrens lives.(perhaps the propofol is to remind us not to sleep when we should be keeping watch).Just like everything else there are good and bad  schools ,teachers and politcal figures, even clergy.
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: May 01, 2010, 05:25:59 PM
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I had been thinking about either homeschooling my son or putting him in private school. My son did far better in private school than he did in public school.

Now, I have to say there isn't anything wrong with making money. First the problem I see in the public school is that they don't teach these children about having their own enterprise. That is one of the problems I have noticed. By the time children are in college they are TONS of debt.  This is what makes me wonder how they set the plan for failure in the get go.  I also agree that money on the other hand is the end all. I have been out of work for sometime. Pretty much from what I have been told. I am overly qualified, yet, they are saying the unemployment rate here in the US is over 11% but you are concerned about me being overly qualified.

Anyways,  I am concorned about the school system.  School in itself is not bad. Its the system that has created it to set our children for failure. The teachers are probably ignorant of the fact that the history in the books are not all truth like so much that is out here now that many donot know unfortunately. What really got me was a few years ago about the SOLs.  They have saturated these kids so much with this that children don't even take books home anymore to read.  They no longer study.  Just not good. :|

Hosea 4:6
People perish for the lack of knowledge.
Parents must wake up to  the fact that their kids need them to be involved and aware of the circumstances in all areas of their childrens lives.(perhaps the propofol is to remind us not to sleep when we should be keeping watch).Just like everything else there are good and bad  schools ,teachers and politcal figures, even clergy.


sorry about that . i did not me my last post to be in direct reply to you. was in a hurry and hit the wrong thing.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: May 02, 2010, 01:39:51 PM
Here's a a youtube video I found about the problems education. Dr. Fulani is addressing the African-American community, but it applies to everyone. It's kind of short, but she makes key point.  She say's it's not just an American issue, it's an international issue.  Also, that publicity and book tours on education aren't going to change things:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQg7Snii ... r_embedded
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: May 04, 2010, 01:55:12 PM
ny,

I agree. It is an international problem.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: May 04, 2010, 04:43:17 PM
Ok I'm gonna just say this and i need help. There are now 3 pregnant girls in my school and it's horrible :o !!!The bad part about it is all 3 of them are my friends(just 2 are my besties ;) ) I find this really shameful :(  because an 8th grader just had a baby a few months ago now it's 3 pregnant girls at once :o One of the girls is an 8th grader and 2 are in 7th just like me :D . I go to a CPS school and this doesn't make it anymore better :x ! We vowed we would make our school more presentable but now with observers walking around there really is no time for this :evil: ! We are on probation and have been for like 3 years now :x ! I am surprised and shocked at them because 1 girl we have been told about tho :? But the other 2 are just hmm but all 3 are wild! I really wanna know what am i suppose to say to my friends i said i wanted to watch 1 of my friends babies lols :) but i just wanna know how are we ever suppose to get off of probation period and academic probation! I would like to know the comments that you may have advice or anything else :D Thank you sooo much :D
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: May 04, 2010, 04:46:39 PM
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Ok I'm gonna just say this and i need help. There are now 3 pregnant girls in my school and it's horrible :o !!!The bad part about it is all 3 of them are my friends(just 2 are my besties ;) ) I find this really shameful :(  because an 8th grader just had a baby a few months ago now it's 3 pregnant girls at once :o One of the girls is an 8th grader and 2 are in 7th just like me :D . I go to a CPS school and this doesn't make it anymore better :x ! We vowed we would make our school more presentable but now with observers walking around there really is no time for this :evil: ! We are on probation and have been for like 3 years now :x ! I am surprised and shocked at them because 1 girl we have been told about tho :? But the other 2 are just hmm but all 3 are wild! I really wanna know what am i suppose to say to my friends i said i wanted to watch 1 of my friends babies lols :) but i just wanna know how are we ever suppose to get off of probation period and academic probation! I would like to know the comments that you may have advice or anything else :D Thank you sooo much :D
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Just trying to understand, what are you on probation for?
Are these girls getting any support from anyone?
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: May 04, 2010, 05:36:17 PM
Just because there are a few public schools that you describe here doesn't mean the majority of them are this way. Our youth need education from somewhere if they can't do homeschooling or private schools. And I am glad it is the law for kids to attend school whereas in my parents time, it wasn't.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: May 04, 2010, 05:40:22 PM
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Just because there are a few public schools that you describe here doesn't mean the majority of them are this way. Our youth need education from somewhere if they can't do homeschooling or private schools. And I am glad it is the law for kids to attend school whereas in my parents time, it wasn't.

No it shouldn't be a law to make anyone have their child attend school. I don't hate school but at the same time if someone wants to home school or send their children to charter schools they should be able to do so.  I don't hate public school it is just unfortunate there is an agenda with the education and I the teachers are not fault with this they are only doing their job.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: May 04, 2010, 06:47:06 PM
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Ok I'm gonna just say this and i need help. There are now 3 pregnant girls in my school and it's horrible :o !!!The bad part about it is all 3 of them are my friends(just 2 are my besties ;) ) I find this really shameful :(  because an 8th grader just had a baby a few months ago now it's 3 pregnant girls at once :o One of the girls is an 8th grader and 2 are in 7th just like me :D . I go to a CPS school and this doesn't make it anymore better :x ! We vowed we would make our school more presentable but now with observers walking around there really is no time for this :evil: ! We are on probation and have been for like 3 years now :x ! I am surprised and shocked at them because 1 girl we have been told about tho :? But the other 2 are just hmm but all 3 are wild! I really wanna know what am i suppose to say to my friends i said i wanted to watch 1 of my friends babies lols :) but i just wanna know how are we ever suppose to get off of probation period and academic probation! I would like to know the comments that you may have advice or anything else :D Thank you sooo much :D
Peace&L.O.V.E
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Just trying to understand, what are you on probation for?
Are these girls getting any support from anyone?
We are on probation for our test scores and most of all our behavior! We have fights and battle wars against other schools and it would be like say we see a girl from Marquette we have to run up and jump her and whoever else she's with but because we are against her!
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: May 04, 2010, 10:36:14 PM
Hello everyone. (: I am an 8th grader, and I am fortunate to have grown in a good school. I'm a straight A student, and, modesty aside, I feel like I'm more intelligent than other kids sometimes. D: Makes me feel bad to say that, but there are students who are... horrible.

I've noticed that our students seem to be getting worse each year. It's really worrying me. This school year has been noticeably different. For example, this is the first time the school-wide grades have actually dropped since 2000, I believe. This is also the first year where the vice principal had to give a speech about the rules and consequences TWICE. I can't tell if it's a coincidence, and many kids from my generation decided to go bad, or if there's a deeper cause to it.

I also noticed that many of you have talked about the history books telling lies...? Can anyone elaborate please? I am new to this forum, so I am a little clueless.  :lol: Thank you all so much for the information.
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: May 05, 2010, 12:02:09 AM
Thank you for this thread guys.
I always knew there was somehing wrong with my school's system.
The other day, My history teacher showed us a movie on politics
made by (drumroll please).. Sony.
I thought I was gonna puke. That class makes me sick.
My teacher is so ignorant to everything that is going on.
It's the only class I have an F in.
He makes us whisper the word "Communism". It's so silly and immature.
It's like he's trying to control our minds and opinions. :roll:
I've actually stood up to him about it a couple of times to no avail.
There definitely needs to be a change.

"The Government don't wanna see."

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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: May 05, 2010, 07:19:41 AM
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Ok I'm gonna just say this and i need help. There are now 3 pregnant girls in my school and it's horrible :o !!!The bad part about it is all 3 of them are my friends(just 2 are my besties ;) ) I find this really shameful :(  because an 8th grader just had a baby a few months ago now it's 3 pregnant girls at once :o One of the girls is an 8th grader and 2 are in 7th just like me :D . I go to a CPS school and this doesn't make it anymore better :x ! We vowed we would make our school more presentable but now with observers walking around there really is no time for this :evil: ! We are on probation and have been for like 3 years now :x ! I am surprised and shocked at them because 1 girl we have been told about tho :? But the other 2 are just hmm but all 3 are wild! I really wanna know what am i suppose to say to my friends i said i wanted to watch 1 of my friends babies lols :) but i just wanna know how are we ever suppose to get off of probation period and academic probation! I would like to know the comments that you may have advice or anything else :D Thank you sooo much :D
Peace&L.O.V.E
-Jesse

Just trying to understand, what are you on probation for?
Are these girls getting any support from anyone?
We are on probation for our test scores and most of all our behavior! We have fights and battle wars against other schools and it would be like say we see a girl from Marquette we have to run up and jump her and whoever else she's with but because we are against her!

Why do you need to jump girl's from Marquette?  Is there a way you could go against the grain and choose not to fight?
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: May 05, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
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Ok I'm gonna just say this and i need help. There are now 3 pregnant girls in my school and it's horrible :o !!!The bad part about it is all 3 of them are my friends(just 2 are my besties ;) ) I find this really shameful :(  because an 8th grader just had a baby a few months ago now it's 3 pregnant girls at once :o One of the girls is an 8th grader and 2 are in 7th just like me :D . I go to a CPS school and this doesn't make it anymore better :x ! We vowed we would make our school more presentable but now with observers walking around there really is no time for this :evil: ! We are on probation and have been for like 3 years now :x ! I am surprised and shocked at them because 1 girl we have been told about tho :? But the other 2 are just hmm but all 3 are wild! I really wanna know what am i suppose to say to my friends i said i wanted to watch 1 of my friends babies lols :) but i just wanna know how are we ever suppose to get off of probation period and academic probation! I would like to know the comments that you may have advice or anything else :D Thank you sooo much :D
Peace&L.O.V.E
-Jesse

Just trying to understand, what are you on probation for?
Are these girls getting any support from anyone?
We are on probation for our test scores and most of all our behavior! We have fights and battle wars against other schools and it would be like say we see a girl from Marquette we have to run up and jump her and whoever else she's with but because we are against her!

Why do you need to jump girl's from Marquette?  Is there a way you could go against the grain and choose not to fight?
I would never think of putting my hands on them unless they hit me first! Now before it's happened kids from Marquette came to our school a BUNCH of boys and girls then we all came outside the building and it was a big Marquette Vs. Mckay fight!!! Hmm i would like to know if you guys think i was in it or not lols but yea that's what happened. Most of those girls will fight tho just for those ugly lil boys but i don't have to it's waay grammar for me :roll: .
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Re: The Shocking Truth About Public Schools

  • on: May 06, 2010, 08:14:42 PM
MJ5Star,

Well, to start off start by staying focus on doing your best to get your grades up, you and the girls both. Attitude is the key for sure.  Focus on the positive. It would be good if there were some older mature young ladies to mentor you and the young ladies.  None of this is worth fighting over.  I remember in school that some of the neighborhoods had beef with each other but really at the end what did any prosper. Nothing!  I had been banked one time fighting another neighborhood girl. She wanted to fight me over some no good "thug" who didn't want her either, can you believe. I can see if the guy had substance. Something worth fighting for. Puhleessssss. But it's not worth it. Just create More fights really!  Also if you could let an adult know what is going on. Someone has to do something about the fights.
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