Has there been 2 this whole time??

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Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 12:25:55 AM
I posted these pictures on the other last year and no one cared  :lol: but since i have came back and i see more people are looking into the double/twin theory I decided to post these pictures again.

While looking though his site to see how far back the multiple mjs go back i came across these pictures and IMO they look like 2 different lil boys...I will note what i see different and i would love for you to do the same.





on the top picture, notice the scar on his cheek, that is still visible today, and on the second picture it is not there

a his eyebrows seem to be thinner and the fuller bottom lip on the top picture

the bottom picture has fuller browsn and fuller top lip

but all and all it doesnt look like the same boy to me, the first picture looks like the michael we have always seem and the 2nd picture just doesnt "feel" familiar to me

edit: the way that the afros lay are different also
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 12:31:13 AM
Hey Misha..we havent been formerly introduced as you probaly know me as WizzKidd lol  ;)..yes i knew i have seen this pictures before from you along time ago..and i to wouldnt be surprised if michael was still black till this day  :) to me michael was about "magic" and creating excapism so to speak..cant wait to post the video
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 12:33:41 AM



^^^ where did the scar go???????


20 to 30 years later and you can still see the scar.....
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 12:34:26 AM
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Hey Misha..we havent been formerly introduced as you probaly know me as WizzKidd lol  ;)..yes i knew i have seen this pictures before from you along time ago..and i to wouldnt be surprised if michael was still black till this day  :) to me michael was about "magic" and creating excapism so to speak..cant wait to post the video
thanks and nice meeting you! and thank you for bringing this back up
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 12:36:59 AM
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Hey Misha..we havent been formerly introduced as you probaly know me as WizzKidd lol  ;)..yes i knew i have seen this pictures before from you along time ago..and i to wouldnt be surprised if michael was still black till this day  :) to me michael was about "magic" and creating excapism so to speak..cant wait to post the video
thanks and nice meeting you! and thank you for bringing this back up
u welcome  :D its time to wake this forum back up lol  :lol:
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 12:48:53 AM
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^^^ where did the scar go???????


20 to 30 years later and you can still see the scar.....
photoshop?  i edit pimples and scars out all the time.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 01:09:26 AM
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Hey Misha..we havent been formerly introduced as you probaly know me as WizzKidd lol  ;)..yes i knew i have seen this pictures before from you along time ago..and i to wouldnt be surprised if michael was still black till this day  :) to me michael was about "magic" and creating excapism so to speak..cant wait to post the video
Really? If that is true..then Michael Jackson is one sick, ugly human being. All that work of saying he had a terrible disease (or whichever fakeass made it up) and making everyone feel all sympathetic, making TONS of people get laughed at trying to defend him and- *gasp!!!* It's not real?! Dear Lord..
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 01:15:51 AM
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Hey Misha..we havent been formerly introduced as you probaly know me as WizzKidd lol  ;)..yes i knew i have seen this pictures before from you along time ago..and i to wouldnt be surprised if michael was still black till this day  :) to me michael was about "magic" and creating excapism so to speak..cant wait to post the video
Really? If that is true..then Michael Jackson is one sick, ugly human being. All that work of saying he had a terrible disease (or whichever fakeass made it up) and making everyone feel all sympathetic, making TONS of people get laughed at trying to defend him and- *gasp!!!* It's not real?! Dear Lord..
i think you misinterpret what i said..he does have vitiligo we have seen it proof of it in the 80's but what im saying is that from what the jackson's at the memorial and funeral have shown us michael as far as his facial appearance probaly is still somewhat the same  ;)
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 01:21:14 AM
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Hey Misha..we havent been formerly introduced as you probaly know me as WizzKidd lol  ;)..yes i knew i have seen this pictures before from you along time ago..and i to wouldnt be surprised if michael was still black till this day  :) to me michael was about "magic" and creating excapism so to speak..cant wait to post the video
Really? If that is true..then Michael Jackson is one sick, ugly human being. All that work of saying he had a terrible disease (or whichever fakeass made it up) and making everyone feel all sympathetic, making TONS of people get laughed at trying to defend him and- *gasp!!!* It's not real?! Dear Lord..
i think you misinterpret what i said..he does have vitiligo we have seen it proof of it in the 80's but what im saying is that from what the jackson's at the memorial and funeral have shown us michael as far as his facial appearance probaly is still somewhat the same  ;)
Well that's not a surprise- those pictures were from the Bad era and his face, excluding skin color, didn't change at all from then to now. People exaggerate the surgeries, of course, but it's because of the fakes. His actual face looks pretty much the same.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 01:25:47 AM
I remember hearing awhile back about the importance of a scar on MJ's cheek.  I think it was on his left cheek.  Was this scar ever mentioned in the autopsy report? Wow, this is a very interesting post.  I think I am going back to my padded cell. My head is spinning.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 01:48:53 AM
The scar he has is on his left cheek, which I can't see visible in either picture.

The other differences you mentioned can be attributed to any or all of the following:

Change in the position of Michael's head
Change in the the position of Michael's mouth
Change in the lighting
Change in the position of the camera being used
Changing in the position of the photographer
Photoshopping

I myself don't buy into the doubles/twin theory. I have nothing against anyone who does, but it would take a LOT, LOT more in the way of proof to convince me otherwise.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 02:04:31 AM
We have been comparing pics for months now, and I can tell you that there are at least two MJ's.  These two look alike so much, you have to know what the differences are to see them.  They look alike so much, they could be twins, yet there are differences.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 02:23:18 AM
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We have been comparing pics for months now, and I can tell you that there are at least two MJ's.  These two look alike so much, you have to know what the differences are to see them.  They look alike so much, they could be twins, yet there are differences.
Oh.. is there any chance that one is his twin?
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 02:36:51 AM
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We have been comparing pics for months now, and I can tell you that there are at least two MJ's.  These two look alike so much, you have to know what the differences are to see them.  They look alike so much, they could be twins, yet there are differences.

Oh.. is there any chance that one is his twin?

We kind of let go of the original "biological twin" idea, but rational thinking leads us to tending to believe that there might be a blood connection.  These two faces are extremely similar, and back in those days plastic surgery wasn't as advanced as it is now.  Anyway, as long as all birth certificates pertaining the Jacksons are sealed or unless Mike himself will one day tell us what really happened, we will never know for sure.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 02:40:51 AM
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We have been comparing pics for months now, and I can tell you that there are at least two MJ's.  These two look alike so much, you have to know what the differences are to see them.  They look alike so much, they could be twins, yet there are differences.

Oh.. is there any chance that one is his twin?

We kind of let go of the original "biological twin" idea, but rational thinking leads us to tending to believe that there might be a blood connection.  These two faces are extremely similar, and back in those days plastic surgery wasn't as advanced as it is now.  Anyway, as long as all birth certificates pertaining the Jacksons are sealed or unless Mike himself will one day tell us what really happened, we will never know for sure.
Wh-what do you mean by the last line? You mean we'll never know if he has a twin?
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 02:51:03 AM
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We have been comparing pics for months now, and I can tell you that there are at least two MJ's.  These two look alike so much, you have to know what the differences are to see them.  They look alike so much, they could be twins, yet there are differences.

Oh.. is there any chance that one is his twin?

We kind of let go of the original "biological twin" idea, but rational thinking leads us to tending to believe that there might be a blood connection.  These two faces are extremely similar, and back in those days plastic surgery wasn't as advanced as it is now.  Anyway, as long as all birth certificates pertaining the Jacksons are sealed or unless Mike himself will one day tell us what really happened, we will never know for sure.
Wh-what do you mean by the last line? You mean we'll never know if he has a twin?

Please just read what I wrote PinkTopaz, I was very clear:  

"Anyway, as long as all birth certificates pertaining the Jacksons are sealed or unless Mike himself will one day tell us what really happened, we will never know for sure."
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 02:59:25 AM
You all know how easy it is to cover up scars with Make up? but all it takes is the right angles and lighting to make it 'reappear'
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 04:10:41 AM
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I posted these pictures on the other last year and no one cared  :lol: but since i have came back and i see more people are looking into the double/twin theory I decided to post these pictures again.

While looking though his site to see how far back the multiple mjs go back i came across these pictures and IMO they look like 2 different lil boys...I will note what i see different and i would love for you to do the same.





on the top picture, notice the scar on his cheek, that is still visible today, and on the second picture it is not there

a his eyebrows seem to be thinner and the fuller bottom lip on the top picture

the bottom picture has fuller browsn and fuller top lip

but all and all it doesnt look like the same boy to me, the first picture looks like the michael we have always seem and the 2nd picture just doesnt "feel" familiar to me

edit: the way that the afros lay are different also

Same beautiful boy.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 04:30:00 AM
Sorry to spoil your fun here, but on both pictures of when he was little, a scar can be seen on his cheek.

It is  hard to see since his head is turned around, but if you look well enough it is there. Just because it is not on the picture does not mean they are not there. You can NOT use a picture like that were the head is turned to 'proof' there is no scar and even more, not that they are 2 persons.

It would really be appreciated if you would only mention that there is a twin or a double if you have concrete, hard evidence because this is becoming very annoying.

There are not 2 persons.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 04:35:36 AM
sorry guys, while i'm open to the doubles theory (or at least trying to!), i just don't believe he'd use one at this young of an age. as for the twin theory....i just can't agree to that one at all.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 04:58:01 AM
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It would really be appreciated if you would only mention that there is a twin or a double if you have concrete, hard evidence because this is becoming very annoying.

The intention of this website is to INVESTIGATE this hoax, and to share thoughts and ideas. You can't expect people ONLY to post their ideas when they have concrete, hard evidence, and that's certainly not a requirement when people want to share their ideas.  If talking about doubles is becoming very annoying for you then you better skip these threads, instead of posting comments like "There are not 2 persons", "there's only one Michael" and "there are no doubles" in each and every thread that appears about doubles.  You're only annoying yourself this way.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 05:10:15 AM
I also don't see/believe it, the reason why I read double topics is because a lot of people are convinced and it makes me curious. But I can't see differences...
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 05:58:27 AM
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It would really be appreciated if you would only mention that there is a twin or a double if you have concrete, hard evidence because this is becoming very annoying.

The intention of this website is to INVESTIGATE this hoax, and to share thoughts and ideas. You can't expect people ONLY to post their ideas when they have concrete, hard evidence, and that's certainly not a requirement when people want to share their ideas.  If talking about doubles is becoming very annoying for you then you better skip these threads, instead of posting comments like "There are not 2 persons", "there's only one Michael" and "there are no doubles" in each and every thread that appears about doubles.  You're only annoying yourself this way.
What is annoying is that if you don't post in such a thread, after a while people are stating it is 'hard evidence' or 'WE determined that it was..." since they never received any feedback.

Ofcourse it's the intention to debate and share opinions, but stating that Michael Jackson is not Michael Jackson is of a different matter, it's an attack at his identity.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 06:42:03 AM
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It would really be appreciated if you would only mention that there is a twin or a double if you have concrete, hard evidence because this is becoming very annoying.

The intention of this website is to INVESTIGATE this hoax, and to share thoughts and ideas. You can't expect people ONLY to post their ideas when they have concrete, hard evidence, and that's certainly not a requirement when people want to share their ideas.  If talking about doubles is becoming very annoying for you then you better skip these threads, instead of posting comments like "There are not 2 persons", "there's only one Michael" and "there are no doubles" in each and every thread that appears about doubles.  You're only annoying yourself this way.
What is annoying is that if you don't post in such a thread, after a while people are stating it is 'hard evidence' or 'WE determined that it was..." since they never received any feedback.

Ofcourse it's the intention to debate and share opinions, but stating that Michael Jackson is not Michael Jackson is of a different matter, it's an attack at his identity.

Well, we are talking about DOUBLES... isn't it?
And we are sharing OUR opinion about it... right?
Compare photos and share opinions are attacks at his identity? I don't think so...
Some of us can see ( crystal clear ) that there are more than one Michael Jackson, but if you don't like this idea please just skip those threads.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 07:38:16 AM
I try as hard as I can but I simply cannot see the difference. To me all the pics are those of "our" Michael. I for one read these topics because maybe one day I will see the difference. But till this day I dont buy the double theorie.....
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