Has there been 2 this whole time??

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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 09, 2010, 07:39:30 AM
I truly don't want to offend anyone with this question, but I'm wondering if the people who see differences are a fan? I have the idea that most of the 'double-believers' are no fans, but that they are only investigating the hoax? I'm just curious, because I'm a fan and I don't see it....
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 10, 2010, 01:38:35 PM
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Hey Misha..we havent been formerly introduced as you probaly know me as WizzKidd lol  ;)..yes i knew i have seen this pictures before from you along time ago..and i to wouldnt be surprised if michael was still black till this day  :) to me michael was about "magic" and creating excapism so to speak..cant wait to post the video
Really? If that is true..then Michael Jackson is one sick, ugly human being. All that work of saying he had a terrible disease (or whichever fakeass made it up) and making everyone feel all sympathetic, making TONS of people get laughed at trying to defend him and- *gasp!!!* It's not real?! Dear Lord..
you can have vitiligo and ot turn all the way white
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 10, 2010, 01:39:08 PM
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^^^ where did the scar go???????


20 to 30 years later and you can still see the scar.....
photoshop?  i edit pimples and scars out all the time.
photoshop in 1971?
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 10, 2010, 01:40:16 PM
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I remember hearing awhile back about the importance of a scar on MJ's cheek.  I think it was on his left cheek.  Was this scar ever mentioned in the autopsy report? Wow, this is a very interesting post.  I think I am going back to my padded cell. My head is spinning.
 :?  :?
yes in 1 of them, they meantioned him having hair still, a good weight, a scar and other none ill sounding discribtions
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 10, 2010, 01:43:19 PM
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I truly don't want to offend anyone with this question, but I'm wondering if the people who see differences are a fan? I have the idea that most of the 'double-believers' are no fans, but that they are only investigating the hoax? I'm just curious, because I'm a fan and I don't see it....
yes i am a fan...and lol @ you thinking that if your a fan you would not be able to see a difference :roll: if i wasnt a fan i wouldnt care to investigate anything :roll:
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 10, 2010, 01:48:23 PM
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The scar he has is on his left cheek, which I can't see visible in either picture.

The other differences you mentioned can be attributed to any or all of the following:
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on the picture where he is a teen you dont see the scar on the first picture? if you click on the picture they get bigger, you can see it on the first picture and not on the second


and for the people saying its photo shop, why would they have a picture that has been touched up and 1 that hasn't right next to each other on the same site from the 70s??? and lighting is not going or make up is not going to make the scar go away. I have seen pictures of him on the history tour and the thriller era  where you can see the scar and he clearly has on makeup. and if it was make up on those pictures again why would they do have the shoot with out make up?
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 10, 2010, 01:52:51 PM
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Sorry to spoil your fun here, but on both pictures of when he was little, a scar can be seen on his cheek.

It is  hard to see since his head is turned around, but if you look well enough it is there. Just because it is not on the picture does not mean they are not there. You can NOT use a picture like that were the head is turned to 'proof' there is no scar and even more, not that they are 2 persons.

It would really be appreciated if you would only mention that there is a twin or a double if you have concrete, hard evidence because this is becoming very annoying.

There are not 2 persons.
i hear you i understand the double theory but now there two, im sorry sometimes things just get too ridiculous and blown out there. I'm sure if he had a twin eventually by now it would have been talked about or found out about how can you keep a child hidden away like that so well when your the biggest watched family out there. sorry. but that is the same kid, they are both michael, the position changes can work wonders.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 10, 2010, 01:54:06 PM
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^^^ where did the scar go???????


20 to 30 years later and you can still see the scar.....
photoshop?  i edit pimples and scars out all the time.
photoshop in 1971?
not photoshop exaclty but im sure they had some photo editing technology. OYY.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 10, 2010, 02:01:43 PM
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yes i am a fan...and lol @ you thinking that if your a fan you would not be able to see a difference :roll: if i wasnt a fan i wouldnt care to investigate anything :roll:

I'm not thinking that a fan wouldn't be able to see the difference, I'm just asking because I'm a fan and I don't see it. And I know from several people who believe in the double theory that they're no fans.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 10, 2010, 02:03:17 PM
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I truly don't want to offend anyone with this question, but I'm wondering if the people who see differences are a fan? I have the idea that most of the 'double-believers' are no fans, but that they are only investigating the hoax? I'm just curious, because I'm a fan and I don't see it....
i'm a fan but not to an extreme length, so i perfectly capable of looking at things carefully and pointing out differences but these two little boys are the same, i doubt he would be using double at that young of an age.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 11, 2010, 06:06:37 AM
I very much doubt he had a twin or double when he was younger. If it was a twin then why hide him? Joe wouldve tried to make twice the money. Why would they have needed a double at such a young age too when he wasn't as famous as some stars who didn't use doubles. The scar appearing and disappearing could be due to many things like lighting, makeup, Photoshop. Same with the facial features.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 11, 2010, 06:17:34 AM
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I very much doubt he had a twin or double when he was younger. If it was a twin then why hide him? Joe wouldve tried to make twice the money. Why would they have needed a double at such a young age too when he wasn't as famous as some stars who didn't use doubles.

I totally agree with you!! It would be inhumane to hide someone to the rest of the world!
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 11, 2010, 07:23:41 AM
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I very much doubt he had a twin or double when he was younger. If it was a twin then why hide him? Joe wouldve tried to make twice the money. Why would they have needed a double at such a young age too when he wasn't as famous as some stars who didn't use doubles.

I totally agree with you!! It would be inhumane to hide someone to the rest of the world!

+1, it makes no sense at all.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 11, 2010, 09:21:40 AM
I am a fan.  Plus, my mind is objective and open.  

My support of MJ is not limited to merely viewing one angle of this hoax investigation. Some fans see one angle and only one...BAM day. For many of them, any discussion outside of BAM day causes them to lose interest in the hoax investigation. In order to maintain objectivity, I must consider the various possibilities of what led MJ to make the decision to design this hoax.

Non-fans or marginal fans are often scrutinized  for their participation on hoax forums. Their presence is needed to bring objectivity and fresh eyes. Some....not all...but some fans only see through rose-colored glasses with things related to MJ. Non fans or marginal fans provide a much needed balance to the investigation.

Some doubles discussions I agree with while others I disagree with. However, discussion of the possibility of doubles should not cause such disarray on the forum. Remember who it is that is being investigated? The man who loved illusions. What greater illusion could have existed than for there to have been more than one MJ hiding in plain sight?

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I truly don't want to offend anyone with this question, but I'm wondering if the people who see differences are a fan? I have the idea that most of the 'double-believers' are no fans, but that they are only investigating the hoax? I'm just curious, because I'm a fan and I don't see it....
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 13, 2010, 09:48:45 PM
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yes i am a fan...and lol @ you thinking that if your a fan you would not be able to see a difference :roll: if i wasnt a fan i wouldnt care to investigate anything :roll:

I'm not thinking that a fan wouldn't be able to see the difference, I'm just asking because I'm a fan and I don't see it. And I know from several people who believe in the double theory that they're no fans.
well im not 1 of them
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 13, 2010, 11:45:16 PM
I have never like that word FAN, it is short for fanatic.  But,
it is not always so of course.  
Can you admire and appreciate some ones talent or their
motives and life.   I admire many people, but just don't go
so far as to say I am a fan.  NO offense to those who like
the word.   :oops:
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 13, 2010, 11:57:16 PM
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^^^ where did the scar go???????


20 to 30 years later and you can still see the scar.....
are you freakin serious?  I gotta get outta here....  This is a professional photography session.  One of the pics is done in low light..you can see more detail in the face...including scar.  The other one is done in more light, that washes out detail...like scars.... or...like they do today with photo shop, they could have ben retouched.  But unlike today, they were not done on computer, they were done by hand.  There are many many photo shoot pictures where you can see that they retouched his scar.  I swear I'm gonna pull my hair out.  And to the original poster of this thread.  The two photos look different because his HEAD is at different angels in each picture!  His Afro looks so different because you are seeing more of the top of his head in the bottom picture.  My GOSH people!  Take a photography class or two and learn about perspective!
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 14, 2010, 12:11:01 AM
I don't buy it.  Sometimes scars aren't visible in pictures, and other times they are
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 14, 2010, 04:37:42 AM
@mykidsmum: I love your sig, it's say it all for me, there is and always have been only ONE Michael!
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 14, 2010, 04:39:47 AM
Please post your answer about doubles-fan in this topic:
viewtopic.php?f=99&t=8631
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 14, 2010, 10:19:09 AM
One thing is for sure...

If MJ had a twin and they hid it from day 1... they´re not as good marketing business men as we thought.

Having 2 MJs and don´t take profit from it?
What for since childhood?
To protect them so they can have a rest?
Who thought that? Joe?  :lol:
What protected the rest of the siblings?
Or they just had to protect MJ because of what he was going to become later?
And who results with the casuality that had a twin!!!! (No emoticon for my face...)

Sorry, theree´s no way it has sense.

I don´t know if my love for him "blurs" my eyes... by I think that preciselly to be a fan makes me know that ass  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 14, 2010, 10:25:51 AM
i agree with the other posters

there is no twin or double

i think with respect you have to be responsible about what you put up as a thread

otherwise its scandalmongering
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 14, 2010, 11:25:47 AM
No twins. Period.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 14, 2010, 01:19:51 PM
I just can't imagine that a mother and father (in this case Joe and Katherine) would hide their child... And why? When Michael was born, they could never know that he became famous in the future.
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Re: Has there been 2 this whole time??

  • on: April 14, 2010, 01:27:26 PM
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I just can't imagine that a mother and father (in this case Joe and Katherine) would hide their child... And why? When Michael was born, they could never know that he became famous in the future.

Exactly!
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