The plastic surgery issue

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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 21, 2010, 04:31:56 AM
The whole chin implant thing...sometimes when guys get older their chins change a little & become more pronounced. Same with their jawline, it happens. I'm not making it up either. One of my closest guy friends who I've known since we were 14, has changed a lot over the years. When we first met each other his jawline was narrow & his chin was small. But over the years as he's become a man it's become more pronounced. He's now 22 & his jawline is more square & his chin is squarer & more pronounced. Same with some of the guys in my family. So maybe the whole chin  changing, chin implant thing could be explained as just aging? Growing from a teenager/young adult into a full grown man.
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 21, 2010, 05:40:52 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
So, then we have O2 dude again....

Mike might have added a SMALL, TINY cleft to the chin, but somehow it got A LOT bigger in only 4 years, now THAT'S odd! First it was round, now it's a line. And what happened to his mouth? Things that make you go hmmmmm.




If I understand you right, it`s all MJ in your first post??! So, this is a pic, also from 2005, where you got your last pic, and his chin looks like 2009. (in my opinion)
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/20032005/vari ... ly/022.jpg
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 21, 2010, 08:25:33 AM
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The lips look just a very little different at O2 because of the way he puts on the linliner (to fill it up with lipstick).

yeah
lips are the same but on the right there is a red line of makup place OUT of the lips
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 21, 2010, 09:33:52 AM
whats done is done. And after all his changes he still managed to stay a sexy thing LOL...
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 21, 2010, 10:11:23 AM
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His eyebrows have changed a lot! I like the Bad era brows.

Besides, who cares what he did to himself, it's his face! Seems he wasn't afraid of needles, although Arnold Klein claims he was 'terrified of them.' hmm

Interesting you mention the fear of needles and worrying as well...  :?  :(
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 21, 2010, 11:10:13 AM
So I went through the pics again, and here is Mike from the Thriller era up to 2005, so there is 20 years in between and a lot of faces, yet we end up with... the same face yet some years older with some work on the nose. I don't see anything other changed, but maybe that's just me.


EXACTLY. In my opinion the only things that have changed are skin tone, nose (a bit), hairstyle, age and weight. He HONESTLY doesn't look THAT different. Thanks for this Souza! With L.O.V.E
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 21, 2010, 12:39:58 PM
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Only chinese grow old without changing ! :lol:

That's not true. I'm part Chinese, even Chinese people change when they get old. It's HUMAN NATURE :D Only plastic people grow old without changing  :lol:


LOL!! Only American Indians grow old without changing!!! Im part american indian and 40 yrs old and I look the same as when I was 20. Seriously. My brother is the same way.
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 21, 2010, 02:38:51 PM
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The lips look just a very little different at O2 because of the way he puts on the lipliner (to fill it up with lipstick).

yeah
lips are the same but on the right there is a red line of makup place OUT of the lips

Exactly, make-up can look a bit different each day if you look close.
In this photo indeed the lipstick was a little OUT of the lips, which make the lips look a little different ...  ;)  If you take a good look you see the lips on both pictures are just the same.

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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 21, 2010, 06:19:32 PM
Good black don't crack! Hahah omgah i had too.
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 21, 2010, 07:13:18 PM
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Only chinese grow old without changing ! :lol:

That's not true. I'm part Chinese, even Chinese people change when they get old. It's HUMAN NATURE :D Only plastic people grow old without changing  :lol:


LOL!! Only American Indians grow old without changing!!! Im part american indian and 40 yrs old and I look the same as when I was 20. Seriously. My brother is the same way.

LOL Everyone changes at some point when they get old. My mom is half Chinese & half White, she looks exactly the same as she did when she was 20 as well, she's 46 now. My dad is Samoan & he's 49 about to turn 50 & he doesn't look it at all. I'm hoping to take after them, I'm 22 right now & people think I still look 15-17  :lol:  But it's more of an individual thing. Some people are lucky to have good skin, good health etc & they age beautifully. Others not so much. You can't really make such a generalized statement about a certain race of people because each individual ages differently. I have a lot of Native friends & some of them look 40 when they're not even 30 yet. Others are 60 & look 30. Same with other people I know or have seen who are other races. It just depends.
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 21, 2010, 07:16:45 PM
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Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Quote from: "teine21"
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Only chinese grow old without changing ! :lol:

That's not true. I'm part Chinese, even Chinese people change when they get old. It's HUMAN NATURE :D Only plastic people grow old without changing  :lol:


LOL!! Only American Indians grow old without changing!!! Im part american indian and 40 yrs old and I look the same as when I was 20. Seriously. My brother is the same way.

LOL Everyone changes at some point when they get old. My mom is half Chinese & half White, she looks exactly the same as she did when she was 20 as well, she's 46 now. My dad is Samoan & he's 49 about to turn 50 & he doesn't look it at all. But it's an individual thing. Some people are lucky to have good skin, etc & they age beautifully. Others not so much. You can't make a generalized statement about a certain race of people because each individual ages differently. I have a lot of Native friends & some of them look 40 when they're not even 30 yet. Others are 60 & look 30. Same with other people I know or have seen who are other races. It just depends.

VERY TRUE
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 21, 2010, 08:30:54 PM
Thanks guys.
I was like.. "CHIN IMPLANTS!?!  :? Lolwutrotflmaobbq"
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 21, 2010, 08:44:24 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Everytime we have a thread about doubles with some pictures, I often see people say "well, Michael had some work done, that changes your face". Did he really change himself that much? I don't think so.

So I went through the pics again, and here is Mike from the Thriller era up to 2005, so there is 20 years in between and a lot of faces, yet we end up with... the same face yet some years older with some work on the nose. I don't see anything other changed, but maybe that's just me.









All i can say is GORGEOUS GORGEOUS GORGEOUS. He melts me to the core. sigh..........and im 49 yrs old. sigh...
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 21, 2010, 09:43:02 PM
The difference in the time of Thriller and the other photos are the eyebrows, can be viewed differently depending upon the amount of makeup you have, now the chin implant in the person of 02 is more pronounced in comparison to the photo that next door and I see the mouth a little different but the lipstick this very badly placed, I think Michael is very careful in those details. I believe that the rate of 02 is not Michael, as for the implant on the chin, perhaps surgery has made some small dishes

Differences have them doubles. :lol:

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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 21, 2010, 10:53:09 PM
I wish i could have eyes like his..  i think i might have plastic surgery myself.  I want my jawline and mouth better than it is and also work done on my eyes to make them bigger.

If Michael did it, then maybe i should improve too.
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 22, 2010, 02:48:39 AM
I think over the years Michael's chin has become more prominent.  He has a very distinct chiseled square chin.  Also it seems that his teeth have become more pointy over time.  They were more square and straighter when he was younger.  It seem like the thing that has changed the most is the cleft in the chin. Sometimes it looks really deep and sometimes it doesn't.  I also noticed that his nose recently went back to looking more fuller.  He has changed his hair alot too but you can still tell it's him.  I think around 2001 when he did the anniversary special he was using botox and fillers.  He was also more heavier in 2001.  That's the changes I've notice.
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 22, 2010, 03:51:37 AM
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I think over the years Michael's chin has become more prominent.  He has a very distinct chiseled square chin.  Also it seems that his teeth have become more pointy over time.  They were more square and straighter when he was younger.  It seem like the thing that has changed the most is the cleft in the chin. Sometimes it looks really deep and sometimes it doesn't.  I also noticed that his nose recently went back to looking more fuller.  He has changed his hair alot too but you can still tell it's him.  I think around 2001 when he did the anniversary special he was using botox and fillers.  He was also more heavier in 2001.  That's the changes I've notice.

I agree.
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 22, 2010, 03:58:17 AM
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I wish i could have eyes like his..  i think i might have plastic surgery myself.  I want my jawline and mouth better than it is and also work done on my eyes to make them bigger.

If Michael did it, then maybe i should improve too.

Michael didn't have surgery on his eyes. Quite a few of his siblings have the big eyes too. He's always had them. & I don't get what the fascination with having big eyes is? My eyes are big & I don't see why people want to make theirs bigger? I don't mind my eyes, they are fine. Big, almond shaped & hazel. But I did get teased a little bit when I was younger for having big eyes. It didn't bother me. But I just really don't understand you wanting to change your eyes. The grass is always greener on the other side. I saw Jessica Simpson's new show when she was in Japan & there was a girl she was talking to who was about to have surgery to make her eyes bigger. I find it weird, sorry. I think if someone has a flaw that they don't like, like a crooked or wide nose, or something like that plastic surgery is fine. But when people start doing it to completely alter their image & become more like someone else or try to create a new face, it's really unhealthy. I think MJ only changed his nose & his cleft. & I agree he may have experimented with botox & fillers. But that's it.
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 22, 2010, 06:17:32 AM
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I wish i could have eyes like his..  i think i might have plastic surgery myself.  I want my jawline and mouth better than it is and also work done on my eyes to make them bigger.

If Michael did it, then maybe i should improve too.

Michael didn't have surgery on his eyes. Quite a few of his siblings have the big eyes too. He's always had them. & I don't get what the fascination with having big eyes is? My eyes are big & I don't see why people want to make theirs bigger? I don't mind my eyes, they are fine. Big, almond shaped & hazel. But I did get teased a little bit when I was younger for having big eyes. It didn't bother me. But I just really don't understand you wanting to change your eyes. The grass is always greener on the other side. I saw Jessica Simpson's new show when she was in Japan & there was a girl she was talking to who was about to have surgery to make her eyes bigger. I find it weird, sorry. I think if someone has a flaw that they don't like, like a crooked or wide nose, or something like that plastic surgery is fine. But when people start doing it to completely alter their image & become more like someone else or try to create a new face, it's really unhealthy. I think MJ only changed his nose & his cleft. & I agree he may have experimented with botox & fillers. But that's it.

I agree. There are so many things in my looks that I'd like to change and have been wanting to do so since I was a teenager but I just don't think I could. Hair and such yes but implants and stuff? I would probably not be happy anyway so why waste the money? Michael has the most beautiful eyes without any surgery done to them but he (or his make up artist) know how to enhance them even more with make up and that's something we could all do easily ;) . Notice how we love all Michael's looks? That's because his beautiful soul shines through. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and to me love makes the imperfect (which we all are) person perfect.
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 22, 2010, 11:00:15 AM
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Michael didn't have surgery on his eyes. Quite a few of his siblings have the big eyes too. He's always had them. & I don't get what the fascination with having big eyes is? My eyes are big & I don't see why people want to make theirs bigger? I don't mind my eyes, they are fine. Big, almond shaped & hazel. But I did get teased a little bit when I was younger for having big eyes. It didn't bother me. But I just really don't understand you wanting to change your eyes. The grass is always greener on the other side. I saw Jessica Simpson's new show when she was in Japan & there was a girl she was talking to who was about to have surgery to make her eyes bigger. I find it weird, sorry. I think if someone has a flaw that they don't like, like a crooked or wide nose, or something like that plastic surgery is fine. But when people start doing it to completely alter their image & become more like someone else or try to create a new face, it's really unhealthy. I think MJ only changed his nose & his cleft. & I agree he may have experimented with botox & fillers. But that's it.
Ah yes, you pretty much just said what I've always said. People (especially people who work in a certain media..) seem to forget how eyeliner and eye makeup can really enhance and alter your eye's appearance. Haven't you guys ever noticed that during the Dangerous era, there were times when his eyes looked small comapared to normal, like the Dangerous pic Souza posted? They never really looked like that again- it was liner.
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 22, 2010, 06:59:45 PM
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Michael didn't have surgery on his eyes. Quite a few of his siblings have the big eyes too. He's always had them. & I don't get what the fascination with having big eyes is? My eyes are big & I don't see why people want to make theirs bigger? I don't mind my eyes, they are fine. Big, almond shaped & hazel. But I did get teased a little bit when I was younger for having big eyes. It didn't bother me. But I just really don't understand you wanting to change your eyes. The grass is always greener on the other side. I saw Jessica Simpson's new show when she was in Japan & there was a girl she was talking to who was about to have surgery to make her eyes bigger. I find it weird, sorry. I think if someone has a flaw that they don't like, like a crooked or wide nose, or something like that plastic surgery is fine. But when people start doing it to completely alter their image & become more like someone else or try to create a new face, it's really unhealthy. I think MJ only changed his nose & his cleft. & I agree he may have experimented with botox & fillers. But that's it.
Ah yes, you pretty much just said what I've always said. People (especially people who work in a certain media..) seem to forget how eyeliner and eye makeup can really enhance and alter your eye's appearance. Haven't you guys ever noticed that during the Dangerous era, there were times when his eyes looked small comapared to normal, like the Dangerous pic Souza posted? They never really looked like that again- it was liner.

So true. Makeup definitely can do magic to the eyes. & Makeup artists know how to apply the makeup just right to give a certain look. I wear makeup every now & then when I'm going somewhere, only eyeliner & mascara & my eyes sometimes look smaller & other times I make them pop (as in stand out) by applying my makeup differently. When I put my liner on the inner lid it makes my eyes seem wider & but they don't stand out as much. When I dramatize them & put the liner on the outside they stand out & it brings out the color (hazel) & accentuates the almond shape. & then different shades of eyeshadow can change the appearance of the eye too. That's what MJ's makeup did. It enhanced his eyes. No surgery at all. & the lips are just another makeup trick. Lipliner & lipstick. If you have thin lips & you line your lips outside the natural line & then fill them in with lipstick, they will appear fuller. However, if you line them on the natural line, they will still look thin. Also, if you apply some blush right under your cheekbones it will create shadow & give the appearance of high cheekbones. & if you already have high cheekbones like myself & MJ, applying the blush a certain way can accentuate them. There's all kinds of makeup tricks. How to make your lips look fuller, how to make your eyes appear smaller/bigger, how to make your face appear slimmer, how to make your cheekbones stand out, etc. Makeup can really make your appearance a bit different.
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 24, 2010, 12:04:39 PM
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The lips look just a very little different at O2 because of the way he puts on the linliner (to fill it up with lipstick).

All Michael IMO.


YES i agree with you

Those are all such gorgeous pics of Michael and i am in agreement he did not change much in appearance at all. He just got better and better looking with age if you ask me!!!
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 24, 2010, 01:15:34 PM
I hate this topic.

People takes MJ for a monster but i clearly understand his choice about surgery since i'm not really helped about my face.  :oops:
I also don't see so many change between 1985 - 1995 and 2005.
Judging face change with 10 years space between pictures is completely stupid.

Fallowing this, i see change the way he moves and sings in concert.
In 1985, he was like a teenage, singing and moving like hell.
In 1995, he was only moving with most of playback
And for the last video just before his "death", he was moving like a 50 years old man in good health (like stalone, swarzenegger or other old actors).

He was just a common man for me !
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 24, 2010, 01:22:05 PM
If you see Michael at the Christian Audigier birthday party he doesn't look very different from the 2005 photo. This is the real Michael.
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Re: The plastic surgery issue

  • on: April 24, 2010, 01:40:29 PM
He looks gorgeous, no matter what.  Damn that man is so hot!!
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