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Re: The plastic surgery issue
April 22, 2010, 05:59:45 PM
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Michael didn't have surgery on his eyes. Quite a few of his siblings have the big eyes too. He's always had them. & I don't get what the fascination with having big eyes is? My eyes are big & I don't see why people want to make theirs bigger? I don't mind my eyes, they are fine. Big, almond shaped & hazel. But I did get teased a little bit when I was younger for having big eyes. It didn't bother me. But I just really don't understand you wanting to change your eyes. The grass is always greener on the other side. I saw Jessica Simpson's new show when she was in Japan & there was a girl she was talking to who was about to have surgery to make her eyes bigger. I find it weird, sorry. I think if someone has a flaw that they don't like, like a crooked or wide nose, or something like that plastic surgery is fine. But when people start doing it to completely alter their image & become more like someone else or try to create a new face, it's really unhealthy. I think MJ only changed his nose & his cleft. & I agree he may have experimented with botox & fillers. But that's it.
Ah yes, you pretty much just said what I've always said. People (especially people who work in a certain media..) seem to forget how eyeliner and eye makeup can really enhance and alter your eye's appearance. Haven't you guys ever noticed that during the Dangerous era, there were times when his eyes looked small comapared to normal, like the Dangerous pic Souza posted? They never really looked like that again- it was liner.

So true. Makeup definitely can do magic to the eyes. & Makeup artists know how to apply the makeup just right to give a certain look. I wear makeup every now & then when I'm going somewhere, only eyeliner & mascara & my eyes sometimes look smaller & other times I make them pop (as in stand out) by applying my makeup differently. When I put my liner on the inner lid it makes my eyes seem wider & but they don't stand out as much. When I dramatize them & put the liner on the outside they stand out & it brings out the color (hazel) & accentuates the almond shape. & then different shades of eyeshadow can change the appearance of the eye too. That's what MJ's makeup did. It enhanced his eyes. No surgery at all. & the lips are just another makeup trick. Lipliner & lipstick. If you have thin lips & you line your lips outside the natural line & then fill them in with lipstick, they will appear fuller. However, if you line them on the natural line, they will still look thin. Also, if you apply some blush right under your cheekbones it will create shadow & give the appearance of high cheekbones. & if you already have high cheekbones like myself & MJ, applying the blush a certain way can accentuate them. There's all kinds of makeup tricks. How to make your lips look fuller, how to make your eyes appear smaller/bigger, how to make your face appear slimmer, how to make your cheekbones stand out, etc. Makeup can really make your appearance a bit different.
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Re: The plastic surgery issue
April 24, 2010, 11:04:39 AM
Quote from: "Loes"
The lips look just a very little different at O2 because of the way he puts on the linliner (to fill it up with lipstick).

All Michael IMO.


YES i agree with you

Those are all such gorgeous pics of Michael and i am in agreement he did not change much in appearance at all. He just got better and better looking with age if you ask me!!!
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Re: The plastic surgery issue
April 24, 2010, 12:15:34 PM
I hate this topic.

People takes MJ for a monster but i clearly understand his choice about surgery since i'm not really helped about my face.  :oops:
I also don't see so many change between 1985 - 1995 and 2005.
Judging face change with 10 years space between pictures is completely stupid.

Fallowing this, i see change the way he moves and sings in concert.
In 1985, he was like a teenage, singing and moving like hell.
In 1995, he was only moving with most of playback
And for the last video just before his "death", he was moving like a 50 years old man in good health (like stalone, swarzenegger or other old actors).

He was just a common man for me !
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Re: The plastic surgery issue
April 24, 2010, 12:22:05 PM
If you see Michael at the Christian Audigier birthday party he doesn't look very different from the 2005 photo. This is the real Michael.
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Re: The plastic surgery issue
April 24, 2010, 12:40:29 PM
He looks gorgeous, no matter what.  Damn that man is so hot!!
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Re: The plastic surgery issue
April 24, 2010, 01:10:36 PM
Quote from: "rowdyangel"
He looks gorgeous, no matter what.  Damn that man is so hot!!

Iam in TOTAL agreement
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Re: The plastic surgery issue
April 24, 2010, 10:01:47 PM
I do not think it's a lack of respect for Michael, unlike what is shown is that there is such a large number of surgeries as the media says, is the change that has anyone with the passage of time 8-)
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Re: The plastic surgery issue
May 03, 2010, 09:37:26 AM
Ok, this thread is 2 weeks or more old.  I am just seeing it, so I want to comment.   Just to say, thanks for this post.  The inflated number of surgeries reported always perturbed me.  Also people believing some rediculous stories, (ie: MJs  nose falling off).  So, thanks for the somewhat realistic discussion.  One love.
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Re: The plastic surgery issue
May 26, 2010, 12:21:47 AM
Quote from: "rowdyangel"
He looks gorgeous, no matter what.  Damn that man is so hot!!

Absolutely correct, Rowdyangel.  For me, MJ at 50 in TII, melted me to the core.  That man is sooooooooooooo gorgeous at any age.  MJ is sheer male perfection to me!  ;)
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Re: The plastic surgery issue
May 26, 2010, 12:31:17 AM
I remember when that Martin dude was interviewing Michael, Michael said he had 2 surguries done on his nose.  I know one of those came from him tripping over a cord (or Joe's leg) during some era, which ended as a broken nose, so the other surgury came from...
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Re: The plastic surgery issue
May 26, 2010, 12:35:02 AM
He looks good either way to me. I dont care how many surgeries he had. His life, his choice, and his business.
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Re: The plastic surgery issue
May 26, 2010, 12:51:41 AM
Quote from: "i_need YoU"
He looks good either way to me. I dont care how many surgeries he had. His life, his choice, and his business.
Same here! :D (coming from an almost 14 yr old.) Every time I see a picture of him, I start to blush! He's so cute!!!! :D
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Re: The plastic surgery issue
May 26, 2010, 06:34:10 AM
Quote from: "reasonables+luvs+MJ"
I remember when that Martin dude was interviewing Michael, Michael said he had 2 surguries done on his nose.  I know one of those came from him tripping over a cord (or Joe's leg) during some era, which ended as a broken nose, so the other surgury came from...
Sometimes it is necessary to "correct" a plastic surgery, because after a few years time after the 1st one you might notice that something isn´t right (for example with the cartilage or the scars...).
I know about that... :)
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Re: The plastic surgery issue
May 26, 2010, 07:03:27 AM
Quote from: "OneLove"
Good black don't crack! Hahah omgah i had too.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  i read through this thread and just have to agree with you. i read a lot of stuff like mike had an eye lifting, bags removed under his eyes, whatever...i don't think any of it is true. nose - yes, chin - yes (doubt the chin implant, tho), botox 'maybe', fillers yes. the rest of the face changed because of aging. mike said it himself: 'it's called aging. my face squared out with age.' (batshit docu)

here's my argument: i was married to an afro-american, he's 13 years older than me. i'll be 45 this year, so i'm in a similar 'age range' here. i have crow's feet, bags under the eyes developing and a distinct line going down from the side of my nose. my ex-hubby, except for 'squaring out', has less wrinkles than me, no bags under eyes. only his salt&pepper beard will tell that he's even older than me. we have a son whose face shape has changed drastically in the past year into 'squaring out', he's 19 now. i have a lot of afro-american family and if i didn't know their ages, you couldn't tell, cuz 'black don't crack', absolutely right! janet jackson is a year younger than me, she looks 20, i look my age...and i don't think janet had anything else done other than her nose (at least not in her face).

mike's skin looked white but the skin was still afro-american underneath. means no or little wrinkles here, thus no lifting necessary.

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Re: The plastic surgery issue
May 27, 2010, 10:32:55 AM
We can't deny Michael has had quite a lot of plastic surgeries and it's OK, you can't undo the past. All I can say is that I find MJ very attractive, then AND now.
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