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Re: The Final Hours
February 28, 2010, 04:16:25 AM
sorry off thread

see this extended vid - kia - she said that at 1.30(ish) that the security told the house keepers to leave the house she stayed with the children and the nanny in the house

i suppose that would be about right is the ambulance was called and were told by cm to work on mj for 42 min in the house
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Re: The Final Hours
February 28, 2010, 01:01:22 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
slightly off thread but an interesting vid

[youtube:2mcafkyh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhr9x45nnSA[/youtube:2mcafkyh]

he did not want to say hi and you dont look so good

interesting indeed! he says he talked to Jermain about MJ's drug problem? didnt Jermaine say he knew nothing of it?
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Re: The Final Hours
February 28, 2010, 01:42:55 PM
Why is It that noone seems to get their story straight!! :roll:
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Re: The Final Hours
February 28, 2010, 02:33:10 PM
Quote from: "CrazyBanana"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
slightly off thread but an interesting vid

[youtube:p49192fs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhr9x45nnSA[/youtube:p49192fs]

he did not want to say hi and you dont look so good

interesting indeed! he says he talked to Jermain about MJ's drug problem? didnt Jermaine say he knew nothing of it?

yeap

and how come they had a failed intervention in march, what just because of rebbie's diary?
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jill

Re: The Final Hours
February 28, 2010, 05:49:38 PM
Obviously he could not be in two places at once.  Does anyone think the last night at the Staples Center was a double?  I remember seeing pictures of the hand written poetry that was found in his room.
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Tay3

Re: The Final Hours
February 28, 2010, 06:11:37 PM
I hope I'm not offending anyone, but I don't believe a word that Ian Halperin says. He isn't to be believed IMO. I just find it very hard to believe that Michael would have acted that way, especially with the kids in the house, even if they were asleep. He says Michael had taken Demerol, (supposedly not true) and that he would wake up around noon. The chef said he or Dr. Murray usually came downstairs around 9:30 am for breakfast.
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Re: The Final Hours
February 28, 2010, 06:16:32 PM
When Ian Halperin wrote that article..   he has a lot of things in there that no-one else has said, like MJ wanting his father and locking himself in his room and not going to rehearsal, ect.

But he has got things in there which has since been verified..   such as MJ being in the doctors bed and not his own...   :?
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Re: The Final Hours
February 28, 2010, 06:25:17 PM
Re: Murray having a pulse ox on MJ and "monitoring" it. I call BS. In the coronor report, where the police listed stuff found at the scene, the only pulse ox in the home was found off in a closet along with a blood pressure cuff. And the pulse ox was not an electronic one that you plug in, it was one that is portable, that you slip on the tip of a finger and it lights up in red with the O2 sats and heartrate. No alarm, you can't set parameters for any alarm to beep. It is used for what we in the medical field call "spot checks" only.
 Even IF it had been used, unless Murray had his eyes glued in the little screen as it was on MJ's finger, it's useless. Plus, it was off in a closet, per the report, not anywhere near where MJ would have been. Ditto for the BP cuff, off hidden in a closet. Obviously NOT being used on MJ that morning.
  The kind he should have been using is a desktop pulse ox where you can set LOWER parameters..usually set at 90. That way, when a person's breathing becomes ineffective, the VERY LOUD alarm goes off. It catches the problem BEFORE someone STOPS breathing.
Just because someone's chest is moving does NOT mean they are breathing effectively.
Notice Murray never said to the cops "I was out of the room and HEARD the pulse ox go off and then went back to MJ". Cuz he was not using one.
  re: any kind of Propofol infusion. Going by the report, there was NO residue of any drug found in the IV bag nor was there any in the top of the tubing near the IV bag. Had there been a bag of propofol infusing, there would have been drug residue in the bag and the top of the tubing left over. The only drug residue was down by the injection port where the IV was in MJ (lower part of the tubing}. One can argue Murray changed the bag but there would still be drug residue in the top of the tubing. One can argue he changed the tubing, but why use that "new" tubing before injecting more propofol down by the injection site??
  Then there is the urine found "at scene" per the report...assuming that they mean the container of urine found there with a lid on it.. why did it have propofol and ephedrine in it if the urine was produced BEFORE Murray gave his supposed 1040 am dose, supposedly the ONLY dose per Murray. He said that he had not given MJ any propofol for the previous 2 or 3 nights. So are they gonna try and tell us that the container of urine was 3 days old and no one, including Murray flushed it?
Just my 2 cents.
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Zen

Re: The Final Hours
March 01, 2010, 12:22:35 AM
Thank you for posting all links in the one place. I have read all of this and
I believe Michael only showed up for a couple of days of the rehearsals and that
is what they filmed.
Unfortunately, for me, I do believe Ian's account at about 90%.

I have asked this same question before and it is the clue we all need. WHO
drove Michael home from the Staples center on the 24th or 23rd?

If posted and I miss, please help direct to link. Thank you.
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Re: The Final Hours
March 01, 2010, 03:52:49 AM
Quote from: "Zen"
Thank you for posting all links in the one place. I have read all of this and
I believe Michael only showed up for a couple of days of the rehearsals and that
is what they filmed.
Unfortunately, for me, I do believe Ian's account at about 90%.

I have asked this same question before and it is the clue we all need. WHO
drove Michael home from the Staples center on the 24th or 23rd?

If posted and I miss, please help direct to link. Thank you.

very good point

do your remember the sound guy said that mike had blocked him is and he had to wait until mike was ready to go home, i thought this was silly because i thought that mike always had a driver

- it was probably one of his bodyguards?
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