Disturbing Picture of Michael

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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 07:11:31 AM
I am naturally very slim and eat all the wrong foods although I am vegetarian I eat a lot of the "fattening" foods, chocolate and cream buns especially and my Sisters neightbour used to think I was anorexic because of my body and the amount I ate but this photo of him in the white T-shirt is really disturbing, he doesn't look healthy and as a member pointed out it is a forced smile. Although I am slim there is only one time I looked as sickly and emancipated as that and it was when I came back from living in Africa and had been very sick after they overdosed me on quinine to treat maleria, in fact quinine is very toxic and can kill if overdosed but in some types of maleria it is the only cure. My family were horrified when they saw me and I did not realize till I looked back at the photo's of me then just how bad I looked and those photos of me and MJ have similarities, we look about as healthy as each other. Also a guys body is different-even slim guys have some sort of muscle and in previous photo's he does have some meat/muscle on him- on these there is nothing. The good thing is no needle marks but the bad thing is you can find other less obvious places to stick needles and compared to the famous gold pants photo's of Michael when he had a perfect body shape, slim, no flab but a bit of muscle and meat on his chest/top of legs you can clearly see the big difference, if the face was covered you really would think it was a different man. Compare the gold pants photo's and these. Dont forget that older people usually put on more weight as they get older, havn't you all heard of middle age spread? His Father Joe was slim when he was much younger and I hate to say it but a looker and look at him now? Also you can see that Michaels Brothers appear to have gained weight with their advancing years. He does not look heathly at all and it is disturbing. You are of course all entitled to your opinion but I think it is clearly obvious that something was seriously wrong. Maybe he was worried about the up and coming hoax? It was a helluva thing to plan and carry out. I don't know but for someone to look so emancipated, thin and sickly beggers belief how they were able to commit to all those hours of rehearsals. There is seriously a big question mark about the whole concerts/movie/rehearsals or whatever you like to call it. A lot does not add up or make sense.
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 08:29:16 AM
totally off topic here  :lol:

just noticed that he tucks his shirt into his underwear ...

and mike was always thin, and also him being 50 years of age at the time im sure didnt help, wen people get older some lose weight as this happens, and im sure its ageing that it making him look as thin as he does, but hey hes still mike  :)
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 08:46:18 AM
Yes, that pic is probably one of the most disturbing I have seen of Michael.  I don't know if the angle is making him seem thinner.  He's thin in a few photos, but that is the thinnest I've seen him (if it is really him).
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 09:22:07 AM
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I think he looks super cute here!!  :D
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 09:26:12 AM
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What's that on the t-shirt?  A map..?  A stage plan..?

I'd like t know, too!
Looks like a technical sketch for a mechanism/machine. Something with a box(?)
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 09:31:34 AM
Ok, I am not going to make any excuses.
He looks like a walking skeleton in these pics and reminds me very much so of several people I've known over the years who did abuse drugs.  He is not at all healthy looking IMO.
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 10:20:56 AM
Oh, i've just finished the ian Halperin's Unmasked and this picture comes to illustrate what i've just read on the last pages when MJ was presented as a very very ill person, a lot underweight and far far away of the beautiful singer and dancer we all remember.
My only wish is someone shows me i'm wrong . Anyway my heart is bleeding  :( and today i want to believe in the double theory, annieisnotok's theory, where another person died in MJ's house on that day of June.
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 10:43:23 AM
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What's that on the t-shirt?  A map..?  A stage plan..?

I'd like t know, too!
Looks like a technical sketch for a mechanism/machine. Something with a box(?)

I was thinking the exact same thing !! And I have to say that he looks really thin and I don't like it !
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 10:55:56 AM
Interesting shirt...

And I said this before on the other forum but I was thinking maybe he was fasting/cleansing his body for physical and spiritual reasons hence his extremely thin stature. I remember when Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes went on a 40 Day, 40 Night cleanse in Honduras and she looked terribly thin on this MTV interview that she did shortly afterward. However, she was healthier than ever because her body was almost refreshed in a sense. She started to get back to her normal weight later on, which shows on that VH1 Documentary. So I am thinking that could be the case for MJ.
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 11:04:18 AM
Looks fine here at rehersals ....
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 11:09:35 AM
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I think he looks super cute here!!  :D

agree! like a naughty kid ready to make some mess! :mrgreen:
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 11:12:16 AM
It's possible that Elizabeth Taylor helped him get away because if he didn't he would die. Just like she did when he 'went to rehab'. That was just to get his feet back on the ground and he was not at rehab/.
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 11:32:35 AM
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Ok, I am not going to make any excuses.
He looks like a walking skeleton in these pics and reminds me very much so of several people I've known over the years who did abuse drugs.  He is not at all healthy looking IMO.
I agree-as I said earlier and contrary to what has been posted the majority of people( unless they are in bad health) put on weight in middle age. All the older men I know have and look at stars like John Travolta now compared to the very slim guy he was years ago, Marlon Brando in later years, I could go on and on. You do not have to be a genuis to see see he looks emancipated. He was very slim in his teens/early 20s but his face did not look sketetal and drawn like in those photo's.
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 11:42:18 AM
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Ok, I am not going to make any excuses.
He looks like a walking skeleton in these pics and reminds me very much so of several people I've known over the years who did abuse drugs.  He is not at all healthy looking IMO.
I agree-as I said earlier and contrary to what has been posted the majority of people( unless they are in bad health) put on weight in middle age. All the older men I know have and look at stars like John Travolta now compared to the very slim guy he was years ago, Marlon Brando in later years, I could go on and on. You do not have to be a genuis to see see he looks emancipated. He was very slim in his teens/early 20s but his face did not look sketetal and drawn like in those photo's.

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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 11:55:59 AM
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Interesting shirt...

And I said this before on the other forum but I was thinking maybe he was fasting/cleansing his body for physical and spiritual reasons hence his extremely thin stature. I remember when Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes went on a 40 Day, 40 Night cleanse in Honduras and she looked terribly thin on this MTV interview that she did shortly afterward. However, she was healthier than ever because her body was almost refreshed in a sense. She started to get back to her normal weight later on, which shows on that VH1 Documentary. So I am thinking that could be the case for MJ.
Very good point but I do not think comparable as Michal was coming up to 51 and although probably not as bad as suggested by some he did suffer health problems and was not 100% fit and healthy. Linda was 30 when she was killed so presumably in her 20s when she went on a 40 night health cleansing/diet.  I really doubt anyone of Michaels age could do such a regime whilst performing gruelling dancing and singing rehearsals and just prior to a set of (supposed!) concert dates. If he had then I think we would have been seeing an open casket with Michael in it and there would not have been inconsistancies and we would all be mourning his death and this site would not exist.
Sorry to say this but I think for their own peace of mind perhaps members are trying to convince themselves of reasons MJ looked like this in June but the fact is he looked worse than even when he had to endure the court case in 05. IMO these photo's are very disturbing to look at. I really do feel pity in my heart when I look at these-love AND pity, is sad.
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 12:02:11 PM
He certainly is very thin, as pictured here. He also looks a bit retarded in this picture, with his shirt tucked in his underwear, showing for everyone to see. And don't even get me started, on what he's wearing.  :D

However, just because he looks goofy as hell, in this picture, that doesn't make me doubt his intellect. Likewise, just because he looks incredibly shrunken, in this picture, that does not negate all the other 2009 pictures we have seen, in which he did NOT appear this emaciated.

Michael is being photographed, here, in about the worst possible angle. This is the angle a woman might use, in order to make her hips look slimmer (not that I would know anything about such sly tricks). He also has a slim-fitting tshirt tucked tightly into his underwear (GOD, Michael), which continues to trim the line of his body, and one of his infamous hats on, which gives the impression his head is huge, compared to his body. And Michael kind of has a big ol' head, anyway, like all the Jacksons.

Change his shirt, take off his hat, pull back his hair, and photograph him at another angle, and he will look pretty much like he did, in This Is It. As for the jacket photos, I cannot agree with his wardrobe choices. For whatever reason, he went with a designer who favors a very slim-fitting line, which maximizes the narrowness of his frame - the jacket(s) with the pointy shoulders were the worst, he looked like Jack the Pumpkin King. I think he's too skinny to be wearing this look, but he obviously liked it, and he's still beautiful, either way. But please...before you mourn his emaciation, consider that he had just made a purposeful switch to a style of dress which would accentuate his skinniness.

I do think Mike was too skinny, at this point. But I also thought he was disturbingly skinny, about twenty years ago. He's got the type of mind-driven metabolism which responds too drastically to his changes in energy and focus. And to top it off, the man has just never made eating enough of a priority to get any significant fat stores, on him.

Honestly, the biggest difference I see in Vintage Skinny Mike, and Modern Skinny Mike, is that he's now in his 50s, and pale as milk. A scrawny young man with brown skin will always look healthier than a scrawny 50 year old with ultra-pale, translucent skin.
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 12:03:22 PM
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don't know. I wanna believe he was healthy but I honestly don't see anything healthy about him in these pictures. You can even see the weariness in his eyes. And even though he's smiling, it looks forced. (Remember his favorite song; "Smile though your heart hearing is aching, smile even though you're breaking.")
But the good thing is, I'm sure he's doing good now. He probably already put on a few pounds

Ok, I have to say, no offense.  MJ is thin and to me, uhh! that does concern me.  When you get older you do gain weight.  I am 35 and noticed that I am doing my best to get back to the size I want but it is a battle, :) so all I can say is that yeah, he is terribly thin here and I hope that wherever he is he has gained it back plus some.
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 12:11:27 PM
I'm sure there's a better example, but this one's not bad, and only took a quick Google search:



Michael Jackson, 21 years old, and in the prime of his life.
Now, imagine his hips/torso turned, just a bit. Remove his skin pigmentation, and add the natural effects of thirty years of aging.



Still see a huge difference? I see a big ol' head, skinny little body, thin arms, sharply-defined collarbone, bony hands...I see Michael, same as he ever was.
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 12:23:26 PM
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Honestly, the biggest difference I see in Vintage Skinny Mike, and Modern Skinny Mike, is that he's now in his 50s, and pale as milk. A scrawny young man with brown skin will always look healthier than a scrawny 50 year old with ultra-pale, translucent skin.
Hmm, not really true as I have lived in Africa and if you walk in the villages most of the guys look skinny and emancipated-very unhealthy in fact and they are black and do not look healthy-not as unhealthy as Michael though but I do not think colour has any bearing on it-take a look at the famine films of Ethiopia from 1985-the guys there living in the famine have the same look as Michael had in these photos and they are far from white.
This is not normal-we have known Michael for 45 years and he has never looked as bad or as thin.
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 12:28:50 PM
Perhaps you mistake my point. I'm not saying that any unhealthy person with brown skin will look 100% healthy. I am saying that pale skin is commonly associated with ill health, and thus, Michael's paleness will always make him appear more unhealthy.

As for comparing the body of Michael Jackson to those of young men living in small African villages, in unknown conditions...I'm not certain that's a valid comparison, or that a notoriously skinny 50-year old American male SHOULD look more healthy than your unknown young men in Africa.

I think the pictures I posted for comparison speak pretty clearly.
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 02:47:26 PM
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totally off topic here  :lol:

just noticed that he tucks his shirt into his underwear ...

HAHAHAHA You're sooo right!! Oh Michael; you're such a nerd lol :roll:
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 03:00:01 PM
Is everyone absolutely positive both those pics are of Michael?  Not trying to start up some conspiracy but something doesn't seem right in one of them.

Also whose the girl in the first pic? Thats a very tight pose and that person seems younger (skin texture wise) than a 50 year old.

It's probably nothing, just thought I'd ask.
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 03:11:41 PM
he is very slender ....... :(
the man needs care .... thinks would offer here enough... :P
He is really very slender and sees breakable from ...... all the others kerle Are probably fed and nobody pays attention to Michael :x
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 03:12:43 PM
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He certainly is very thin, as pictured here. He also looks a bit retarded in this picture, with his shirt tucked in his underwear, showing for everyone to see. And don't even get me started, on what he's wearing.  :D

However, just because he looks goofy as hell, in this picture, that doesn't make me doubt his intellect. Likewise, just because he looks incredibly shrunken, in this picture, that does not negate all the other 2009 pictures we have seen, in which he did NOT appear this emaciated.

Michael is being photographed, here, in about the worst possible angle. This is the angle a woman might use, in order to make her hips look slimmer (not that I would know anything about such sly tricks). He also has a slim-fitting tshirt tucked tightly into his underwear (GOD, Michael), which continues to trim the line of his body, and one of his infamous hats on, which gives the impression his head is huge, compared to his body. And Michael kind of has a big ol' head, anyway, like all the Jacksons.

Change his shirt, take off his hat, pull back his hair, and photograph him at another angle, and he will look pretty much like he did, in This Is It. As for the jacket photos, I cannot agree with his wardrobe choices. For whatever reason, he went with a designer who favors a very slim-fitting line, which maximizes the narrowness of his frame - the jacket(s) with the pointy shoulders were the worst, he looked like Jack the Pumpkin King. I think he's too skinny to be wearing this look, but he obviously liked it, and he's still beautiful, either way. But please...before you mourn his emaciation, consider that he had just made a purposeful switch to a style of dress which would accentuate his skinniness.

I do think Mike was too skinny, at this point. But I also thought he was disturbingly skinny, about twenty years ago. He's got the type of mind-driven metabolism which responds too drastically to his changes in energy and focus. And to top it off, the man has just never made eating enough of a priority to get any significant fat stores, on him.

Honestly, the biggest difference I see in Vintage Skinny Mike, and Modern Skinny Mike, is that he's now in his 50s, and pale as milk. A scrawny young man with brown skin will always look healthier than a scrawny 50 year old with ultra-pale, translucent skin.

TOTALLY agree with you.The angle, the lights and the outfits are important to look at in this pic.
To me, Michael in not thinner than in his 20s ...  and this video shows it very well I think . He's neither thinner, neither less thin.
[youtube:s45kmopn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgPKc9FUC6Y&feature=related[/youtube:s45kmopn]
(And it's a little gift for us at the same time ;) )
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael

  • on: December 07, 2009, 03:24:25 PM
if one finds it can see in the neck and the head....
the head appears very much largely to the body ...... I think, nevertheless, nobody looked after MJ he takes so many from his body and this body supply and energy ....... Michael needs, however, also some increasing must see in weight again he does not earn people only....
he has probably noticed this and a Schlußstrich pulled .... what are without Him?
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