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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael
December 07, 2009, 04:50:44 PM
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Good research Ninanina. So if these pics were taken about a week before he "passed" as was stated in the video, do you guys think this could prove the ambulance pic is a fake? His face appears to be much fuller in the ambulance shot IMO.

I think, the ambulance pic speaks for itself.
It doesn't look like any Michael we've seen in TII.
Actually, it doesn't look like any Michael we've seen after 1996...
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael
December 07, 2009, 04:55:38 PM
I honestly can't believe anyone can look at those photos and not think he was way too thin .  He's almost emaciated...he looks like a walking skeleton.  It is very upsetting for me to see him like this. :(  Yes, Michael was always very thin, but he was not sickly underweight.  He was obviously under enormous pressure and stress for him to become this skinny.  Btw, he does not have a big head...I have a fedora that he wore and it fits me and I have a small head.  He has that "bobble head" look that many celebrities who are way too thin have.  How could he have gone through 50 concerts being this underweight?   If he would have gotten any thinner his organs would have started shutting down.  Good reason for the hoax, no?

And no, I don't think he looks like the guy in the ambulance...that face is not gaunt and hollow.  Good news for us.  ;)
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael
December 07, 2009, 05:12:22 PM
He does look skeletal.  there's no getting around it.  I don't know how to post pictures but I have one where you can see how awfully thin and out of it he looked during the TII rehearsal stage.  It brought me to tears.  I do believe he was not eating or drinking for fear that someone was trying to murder him through food and water.  That is what he had stated. Perhaps he could have been paranoid with nights and nights of little or no sleep for years.  Even Ortega had to finally admit that they were concerned about his weight;  but they tried to respect that he was a grown man and should be left to make those kinds of personal decisions.
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael
December 07, 2009, 05:13:19 PM
One point i want to make is this the REAL Michael? Remember there was a rumour of E'cas having Cancer, well to me this picture is like someone who has got cancer, and wasting away.
I'm not saying for one minute that Mike had Cancer, but what is the possibity of one of his doubles, and using their death as a cover to get away.
This picture makes me sad if it is real.  :cry:
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael
December 07, 2009, 05:16:33 PM
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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“True goodbyes are the ones never said

Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael
December 07, 2009, 06:27:50 PM
I just went through a lot of pics from 2008 and 2009 on mjjpictures.com.
Michael looked nearly as thin already in February 2009, but we never got to see that much from his chest as in the map shirt pic.

Interesting is, that he didn't change his clothes style until May 20th - that's the first time he appears in a suit that makes him look much thinner.
That probably also the date, when the pic with is makeup artist (the girl on that one pic posted here) was done.
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Before that day he wore his normal shaped suits and coats.

So, it's quite obvious to me, that he WANTED everybody to see, how skinny he was. He underlined it with his style.

There is definitely a huge body change between 2006/2007 and 2009! Where's his butt?
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This is from June 2006
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael
December 07, 2009, 07:13:46 PM
Thanks again Ninanina  for posting these pictures. He really did change a lot from 2006-2009. I think this just reinforces that he might not have been well enough for the concerts. There are articles and comments I've read about how he cancelled and kept changing the dates, making some of his fans very angry. Maybe he really couldn't do the concerts and as Dr. Klein said in the TMZ interview, he got the feeling that Michael really didn't want to do them. Also he said he saw no needle marks on his arms when he last saw him about 5 days before his "death". I agree, the pic of Michael in the map shirt clearly shows no needle marks. So much conflicting information out there!

 But...  what's really curious is the fact that Dr. Klein said that Michael told him and everyone else in the office on that last day goodbye. I know I'm getting way off topic here, but how strange is that? Why would he say goodbye to everyone??
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael
December 07, 2009, 07:25:40 PM
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I just went through a lot of pics from 2008 and 2009 on mjjpictures.com.
Michael looked nearly as thin already in February 2009, but we never got to see that much from his chest as in the map shirt pic.

Interesting is, that he didn't change his clothes style until May 20th - that's the first time he appears in a suit that makes him look much thinner.
That probably also the date, when the pic with is makeup artist (the girl on that one pic posted here) was done.
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Before that day he wore his normal shaped suits and coats.

So, it's quite obvious to me, that he WANTED everybody to see, how skinny he was. He underlined it with his style.

There is definitely a huge body change between 2006/2007 and 2009! Where's his butt?
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This is from June 2006

That rear shot looks like the MJ I remember.  Nice, nice buns, lol.  

I think Michael was trying to bring attention to it himself before someone else did.  Keeping one up on the media before they started reporting that he had some dread awful disease and was at death's door with one of their sneak attack photos.  That being said, it might have been a cry for help.  He obviously knew he looked frail.  He obviously had some misgivings about it.  And apparently it bothered him enough to speak it yet still manage to keep it in some kind of context to make it appear that it was by choice.  HOWEVER, I don't buy it.  Michael had a lot of pride in his appearance.  He knew what was appealing to the eye and what was not.  I remember him saying something about not ever wanting to look old and wrinkly.  He'd rather be dead than be old.  When he looked in the mirror he had to see what was obvious.  And it had to have an impact on how he felt about himself.  The only thing I wish is that someone he considered a real friend (who would that be?  They all seemed to be snakes in disguise.) would have had the guts to say to him come on Michael, you're disappearing.  Let's put a little more meat on those bones.  Said it to him in a way that was compassionate and out of real caring not condescending, and then physically made sure he did something about it instead of just saying it and letting it go, and have him feel self conscious there after.   Actually showed him they cared about him and didn't want him to get sick.  Something!  

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All that being said, I still love you Michael.  You are more than just a pretty face.  You are beautiful through and through.  Take care of you.  We want you to shine light the bright light that you are and has always been.  That's what's important.    That's what matters most.
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael
December 07, 2009, 07:39:03 PM
michael does look to thin in this pic theres no denying it i hope in my heart he deliberatly lost the weight for the impact of the hoax to be more believable but i def agree it is much different from the ambulance pic
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael
December 07, 2009, 07:42:47 PM
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michael does look to thin in this pic theres no denying it i hope in my heart he deliberatly lost the weight for the impact of the hoax to be more believable but i def agree it is much different from the ambulance pic

Definitely not the ambulance pic. That was obvious from day one.
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael
December 07, 2009, 08:21:20 PM
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wow, Michael looks painfully thin in these pictures it's a little hard to take. It looks like hes wearing islamic prayer beads round his neck . So did he in actual fact convert to islam?

 yup..i noticed the beads too
and i can asure you that it IS the Islamic beads
i know so
but about the convertion..i guess no one knows for sure
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael
December 07, 2009, 11:18:14 PM
Thin or not, it doesn't mean he's sick or unhealthy, you can't state it by a photo, it's all about appearance, clothes and impression. Or maybe I am blind, because I simply cannot see a sick man in TII, moving like that?

I think many people see things under their emotions, feelings, instead of sense, like when I see comments like "his eyes are sad, he looks sad, his smile is sad" and so on. Come on, we cannot say that by photos, again it's our impression. Nothing more. I hope you understand my point.
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael
December 08, 2009, 05:48:21 AM
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michael does look to thin in this pic theres no denying it i hope in my heart he deliberatly lost the weight for the impact of the hoax to be more believable but i def agree it is much different from the ambulance pic

When I saw this pic again yesterday You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login , I wanted to research, what it is about.
It's the t-shirt for "BODIES - the exhibition"
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When I read the text I thought: Did Michael go there to learn about his body? To know how thin he was 'allowed' to become and how he was gonna do it, without harming himself?
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael
December 08, 2009, 07:01:22 AM
Please, people MJ sees neither property nor Healthy in these pictures....
Nobody has undertaken something everything has watched they, nevertheless ..., however, we see ite we may glorify nothing ......Everything around Michael are well fed and Michael deffinitiv problems with his body weight....
it is sadly the person do not watch and trade....Michael is, nevertheless, a person condemns he has always put out those strains his body and this body needs energy and drove....
I think I need to be no doctor or food expert in order to see he is very unterweighty and a difference is from Slender as usual and this here


This is not sadly for admiring .......
Michael it acts to me so suffer this you have not deservingly ......
I wished it if somebody was on your side you really sees everything have exploited you
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Re: Disturbing Picture of Michael
December 08, 2009, 07:59:57 AM
Michael did not do this deliberately, or for any reason(s) that you think it is in relation to the hoax. He was under a whole load of stress, and nearly on the verge of breaking down. It was heartwrenching, because he just couldn't, and WOULDN'T eat, until someone had to FORCE-FEED him. There was once he almost fainted. Yes, that was how weak he was at that point of time.
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